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Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only on the iPhone X and possibly the 8.

Face ID only exists on the iPhone X, so you don't need a way to turn it off on other devices. :)

Touch ID though. (edit: I see what you mean. I didn't see parent didn't mention Touch ID)

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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A few things have struck me really strong on Apple's stand and implementation on protecting users' privacy: 1. Though it's understandable that Apple earns money primarily by selling hardware, it's sort of amusing and alarming at the same time that a proprietary almost-closed-source software company is focusing on protecting and preserving privacy whereas partially open source platforms competing with Apple seem to be…

Where are you getting the info about iMessage not being stored in the cloud encrypted? Wasn't that a major feature point of iOS 11?

It seems like Apple could read them in iCloud. I have to admit this is a guess based on the wording on the privacy page. The privacy page still has the same text as two days ago (quoting an excerpt here):

> Apple has no way to decrypt iMessage and FaceTime data when it’s in transit between devices. So unlike other companies’ messaging services, Apple doesn’t scan your communications, and we wouldn’t be able to comply with a wiretap order even if we wanted to. While we do back up iMessage and SMS messages for your convenience using iCloud Backup, you can turn it off whenever you want.

Compare that with what it says under the Health section of the same page (quoted excerpt):

> And any Health data backed up to iCloud is encrypted both in transit and on our servers.

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Wake me up when they let one sync contacts without giving icloud cleartext access in the process

Can you say more about why this is important to you? I mean, more stuff encrypted without provider escrow keys is a generally good thing, but are your contacts specifically more important than, say, you calendar events? What threat model are you worried about with your personal, curated contacts?

all data is important, indeed. contacts are just an easy to access example. I'm worried about countries creating laws, secret and public, that force Apple to hand over my data. Specifically those governments that I spend time in and that I also spend time criticising or protesting within as an activist. I'm worried about regime changes. I'm worried about 3rd party data breaches. I'm not worried about how my data exposure would effect me now but how it would effect me in the future when mining and correlating data to use against activists will be much easier.
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