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Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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is there a way to add DNS entries via API yet? I don't see where to get the code except for swift-1.0.0, and I'm not sure what that does.

swift is the storage piece (think S3 or Cloud Files). In fact, it is what is running as Rackspace's Cloud Files right now. Although it is listed as 1.0 and a developer preview release, it is production-ready code that is currently being used.

Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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post #14

is there a way to add DNS entries via API yet? I don't see where to get the code except for swift-1.0.0, and I'm not sure what that does.

the API doesn't have DNS support yet

Swift is the storage platform for OpenStack. The compute platform will be released later.

Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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What benefit does Rackspace get from doing this?

They commoditise the software and sell the services.

This reduces the risk that a competitor will come along with either (1) a popular vertically integrated solution that locks you out of market share or (2) some arrangement that allows them to dictate terms to you. Further, if a participant does emerge matching one of those patterns, they are organised respond through their established platform.

IBM does something similar with linux, which competes with non-free unix solutions and Windows. Google have done this with android, which reduces the risk of their being held to ransom by Apple.

Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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I'm sad RackSpace chose to market this effort under the term "Open Stack". A number of us in the open web community have used that term to a great extent to talk about OpenID + OAuth + Portable Contacts + Open Social ( http://therealmccrea.com/2008/09/19/joseph-smarr-at-web-20-o... ) Admittedly the initiative has lost momentum (for many reasons and factors) but things are still out there. This just creates confusion…

I'm sorry, we didn't think the two communities would cause confusion. Almost everything you can name something these days will cause a "name collision" of sort. The infrastructure and application folks are pretty separated and so are the concepts so hopefully the context in which it is used will make it clear. Detail wise, the OpenID + OAuth... is "Open Stack" and this should be used only as "OpenStack".

Preamble: thanks for the software, looks awesome.

The problem is that the domains are very close. There's a lot of modern web apps are cloud based and use the open stack (I recall Mike Malone and Joe Stump doing a great talk at PyCon about these topics using that exact term). This makes searching really really annoying.

How about OpenSkies?

Re: Openstack: Open source cloud computing software

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It's open, it's cloud, it's new, it's got NASA involved! So how does this help me move 20 terrabytes of data and a range of web services and customer facing applications from my current cloud provider to a new provider?

The theory is that I can take a data snapshot of my 20 terabytes, move it to the new provider's network by driving it across town (still the fastest way to move data), "drop it in", switch over DNS and excluding a few lost transactions during switch-over everything should work fine.

The reality is that this removes the pain of proprietary configuration from a data center migration but it's still a painful process to switch cloud providers that involves a lot of work, some risk and down-time. So while this is a great marketing play from Rackspace there is still a level of lock-in when you commit to using a provider and so the risk to Rackspace to go 'open' is minimal but the benefits of being the leader are huge.

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