Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
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Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
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Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#2While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#3While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist?
I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#4While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist? I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
Apparently there are multiple multiple scleroses.
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#5Much of the auto-immune related diseases seem to be vaguely arriving at a similar conclusion lately.
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#6While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist? I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
You might also want to have her CSF independently tested for nematode worms. (what I mean by this is to put it under a microscope). it surely won't hurt, as some pathologists (although not published yet in the medical literature AFAIK) are finding them in all the samples they have tested for.
More information: https://youtu.be/aTPU87CKQLQ?t=6m30s
If this proves to be the case for your aunt, the good news is that anti-helmintics like Ivermectin, could efficiently treat the underlying cause.
You also might benefit from performing Metagenomic tests ( such as Digital Culture by Karius - kariusdx.com) to look for insidious pathogens that might play a role in her illness.
In other words, there are many different things that might cause the symptomatology described as "Multiple Sclerosis", Lyme disease actually being one of them, https://youtu.be/Fy0ViOX7xNk?t=9m37s
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#7While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist? I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
Primary progressive MS (PPMS), Relapsing-remitting MS (RRMS), etc.
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist? I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
You might also want to have her CSF independently tested for nematode worms. (what I mean by this is to put it under a microscope). it surely won't hurt, as some pathologists (although not published yet in the medical literature AFAIK) are finding them in all the samples they have tested for. More information: https://youtu.be/aTPU87CKQLQ?t=6m30s If this proves to be the case for your aunt, the good news is that anti…
I looked into both of those researchers. I could find nothing published by them with regards to MS. They do both seem to have published on Lyme disease. Can you provide any published research to back those youtube videos?
Maybe I'm wrong here, but this feels like giving medical advice based on very little hard evidence. Considering I have a loved one with MS, I find such advice sickening. You see this with many terminal diseases.
Terminal disease is a fucking terrible thing. It makes people desperate in every sense of the word, it makes them grasp at anything. Flippantly mentioning a few things that 'might help' is basically saying. "Hey, here's a thing that maybe means you won't die / suffer as much from dying". Making such claims lightly is (excuse my language) being a fucking asshole. You are getting someone's hope up, only for that hope, and a little piece of that person with them, to be smashed to pieces when it turns out to be wrong. Moreover, you are telling that person "don't accept your fate, here try this". Acceptance is needed for a healthy way to process terminal disease. 'Advice' like this fucks with that in a big way.
Don't overestimate your own chances of being success at the expense of a dying person please.
(I know, harsh words. But I needed to get this off my chest)
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#9While some searching might clear it up, the fact that the article doesn't even mention which type of MS they are talking about is a little vexing.
Can you expand on this for people not familiar with the types of MS that might exist? I have an aunt with MS and got excited by this article, but still wasn't aware that it might be limited to a subset?
So, the more precise description of different types you could read about, say, on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_sclerosis#Types. To describe it briefly, though - there are different types, some appear later in life some earlier, some show up sporadically, while some are constant and get progressively worse. The issue is that, from what I know, there is nobody who can even tell if they are the same pathology, just that they have some similar symptoms.
Re: Gut Germs Appear to Play Role in Multiple Sclerosis
#10the gut immune system has 70– 80% of the body's immune cells.
http://m.ajpgi.physiology.org/content/277/5/G922
It seems like a pretty obvious connection once you know that detail. If you have any kind of chronic medical condition, you would likely benefit from improving your gut health. (Hint: Dietary changes are a good place to start.)