Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

Post by notheguyouthink » Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 1:47 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #229

notheguyouthink wrote: post #226

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> Because they know people don't like to pay, they choose to pretend they're free, while at the same time bleeding the visitors for small amounts of indirect money (in attention => time, or computing resources => electricity). I mean... I get where you're coming from, and I agree that I don't like it either - but I'm curious what the "right" solution is. I think it's clear that people, on average, hate to pay. They h…

Yes, people hate to pay. Like 'Eliezer said once, paying literally feels like losing hit points in a video game. Still, I think we should accept it. My proposed solution is bit unpopular, but it goes like this: just have people pay actual money. Now, this would cause a lot of the present Internet to disappear, and I say good riddance . Here is why. The Internet is mostly made of two kinds of people: 1) those who publ…

Post by TeMPOraL » Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 2:17 PM UTC

notheguyouthink wrote: post #231

TeMPOraL wrote: post #229

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Yes, people hate to pay. Like 'Eliezer said once, paying literally feels like losing hit points in a video game. Still, I think we should accept it. My proposed solution is bit unpopular, but it goes like this: just have people pay actual money. Now, this would cause a lot of the present Internet to disappear, and I say good riddance . Here is why. The Internet is mostly made of two kinds of people: 1) those who publ…

As an aside, I think newer p2p oriented technologies will slowly improve the "pro bono" culture. When we can all host a site with a good UX, easily, that can handle reddit level traffic for free.. the model changes a lot. Tech like IPFS could make the world a very interesting place.

Post by stordoff » Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 2:54 PM UTC

drumttocs8 wrote: post #234

Trading content for processing power seems like a logical and satisfactory solution to an age-old problem- people wanting free stuff, businesses wanting to stay in business. I think it's a beautiful example of new economic models enabled by tech. Are people's main concerns battery life/power usage?

Post by phailhaus » Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 2:57 PM UTC

wtallis wrote: post #182

phailhaus wrote: post #170

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Yeah but you're not entitled to use their server's resources for free. If you're not okay with them running a miner while you use their site, don't use their site. I'm okay with this approach as long as they are transparent about it.

> If you're not okay with them running a miner while you use their site, don't use their site. The onus is on the site to not serve up content if they don't trust that I'm running their code as-is at full speed. Nothing about the design of the Web says that servers should trust unauthenticated clients or that clients should prioritize the server's wishes over those of the user. Server operators have no standing to co…

Post by phailhaus » Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 2:59 PM UTC

Nursie wrote: post #193

phailhaus wrote: post #169

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You have to remember that you're not entitled to their server resources. If you are not okay with a CPU miner, then don't use their site. I'm okay with this as long as they are 100% transparent about their monetization scheme.

I'm pretty sure I'm entitled to request content, and my machine can render it however it likes. They make the choice whether to serve it or not.