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Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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I rescued my neighbor's Mac from an adware invasion using Malwarebytes so I I would argue that not all these tools are created equal.

Malwarebytes is great. However, what if it was their installer that was attacked in such fashion? Trusting old memories of what's good or not can be dangerous. I remember getting caught out once by CoreTemp which suddenly packed a load of dung in its default installer. :(

Sourceforge revolutionizes open source by providing free hosting for projects!

[later]

Sourceforge - You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

[still later]

Sourceforge is respectable again! (hopefully?)

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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As a kid, the only OS I was aware of was Windows. Once, my computer was infected to the point where it was almost unusable. A more experienced friend suggested a non-free antivirus and the CCleaner. After a lot of effort, I could get my machine back to working, but it became so slow that it led me to discover Linux. Now, on a Windows 10 machine, I’ve nothing but Defender, and since the aforementioned experience I’ve…

The culprit was the non-free AV. Gone are the days of simple passive signature scanners. Now they all sink their claws deeply into the OS intercepting filesystem operations, network packets, and any other privileged activity. Performance be damned.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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With all these malware problems I look forward to more heavily sandboxed operating systems based on capabilities. Maybe Fuchsia will be that operating system, if it does not turn out to be a google spyware hell.

I hope I can make Redox be that operating system.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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> it led me to discover Linux As someone who is the same boat but hasn't discovered Linux yet, how hard would you say it would be to install a version of Linux that support 3 monitors (using an onboard ATI card and a PCIe card)? Last time I tried installing it this is the part I gave up at. Also as a person always been aware of Window I find the graphics in Ubuntu lacking some finesse, i.e. the scrollbars, window pan…

Don't go down that rabbit hole. Linux is not for desktop despite many years of efforts. Even the distro with the greatest focus on UI (elementaryOS) looks like a toy. That Linux is hugely successful everywhere EXCEPT in the desktop should tell us something. Just my honest opinion after 15 years of continuous use in university and work. XKCD still relevant today: https://xkcd.com/456/

Lets be real; as much as I shit on systemd, since it released the desktop experience for people is much more well-rounded and I think it has helped distro maintainers really push usability.

Usability of Linux in the past 10 years has been exponentially increasing.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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post #82
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Malwarebytes is great. However, what if it was their installer that was attacked in such fashion? Trusting old memories of what's good or not can be dangerous. I remember getting caught out once by CoreTemp which suddenly packed a load of dung in its default installer. :(

Sourceforge revolutionizes open source by providing free hosting for projects! [later] Sourceforge - You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. [still later] Sourceforge is respectable again! (hopefully?)

> Sourceforge is respectable again! (hopefully?)

When pigs fly. I cringe every time I encounter a project hosted on SF and have to play their stupid find the download link game.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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As a kid, the only OS I was aware of was Windows. Once, my computer was infected to the point where it was almost unusable. A more experienced friend suggested a non-free antivirus and the CCleaner. After a lot of effort, I could get my machine back to working, but it became so slow that it led me to discover Linux. Now, on a Windows 10 machine, I’ve nothing but Defender, and since the aforementioned experience I’ve…

The culprit was the non-free AV. Gone are the days of simple passive signature scanners. Now they all sink their claws deeply into the OS intercepting filesystem operations, network packets, and any other privileged activity. Performance be damned.

To be fair, they're responding to more sophisticated virus distribution.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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With all these malware problems I look forward to more heavily sandboxed operating systems based on capabilities. Maybe Fuchsia will be that operating system, if it does not turn out to be a google spyware hell.

I think you're just going to see more stuff become a Web app. Sandboxing doesn't make much sense with a system utility like this.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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I don't understand the question. Maintenance will always be a thing, carried out by humans, cron, or the os itself doesn't really matter.

Why doesn't MS Windows do the maintenance - CCleaner does things like clean up ancient cache files, remove Windows update files, remove registry entries for software that's no longer installed. That sort of maintenance seems like it's the result of poor design in an OS that has the hood welded shut. I actually used ccleaner on Win 10 recently, an MS update had associated loads of files with TWINUI which wasn't instal…

You can disable startup programs from task manager in W10. Or msconfig in older versions.

Re: Malware identified in CCleaner 5.33

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As a kid, the only OS I was aware of was Windows. Once, my computer was infected to the point where it was almost unusable. A more experienced friend suggested a non-free antivirus and the CCleaner. After a lot of effort, I could get my machine back to working, but it became so slow that it led me to discover Linux. Now, on a Windows 10 machine, I’ve nothing but Defender, and since the aforementioned experience I’ve…

Feels like you've vaccinated you brain and developed antibodies of security-conscious computer usage patterns.
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