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Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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What is Dynamodb used for internally? Looks like it's being used for fulfillment and checkout as well. Is Amazon entirely based out of Dynamodb nosql ?

According to this Amazon job listing [1], DynamoDB isn't even the biggest (in terms of throughput) data store that Amazon uses. [1] https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/447605/systems-engineer

> SABLE is at the core of Amazon.com retail infrastructure. It more than 400 billion requests per day from Amazon.com websites, Web Services, and internal Amazon systems.

Wow!

Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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Something I appreciate very much with AWS is how much dogfooding Amazon does. In contrast, Google has said in the past that GCP is not used by Google engineers (and it shows, occasionally GCP goes down but actual Google products do not!). There is also no clear indication that Microsoft is actively using the public deployment of Azure.

Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not going to say you're lying but I think you're being eh misleading. This investigation is happening due to increased scrutiny of the Whole Foods merger and isn't a formal investigation by the FTC. Effectively the FTC is required to do its due diligence and the FTC has not accused Amazon of anything. It's some third-party group making the accusation.

> A study conducted by Consumer Watchdog in March found that for 61% of Amazon AMZN, -2.48% products, the pre-discounted price or “reference price” used for comparison with the new sale price was higher than what the products had been sold for in the past 90 days. This means the amount Amazon advertises under “you save” could be inaccurate. Amazon said the prices reflect averages of prices listed by competitors and o…

This sounds pretty tame to me. Hardly the Deep Throat moment you're making it out to be. In fact, I'd wager that most retailers probably do this for big sales events.

Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to this Amazon job listing [1], DynamoDB isn't even the biggest (in terms of throughput) data store that Amazon uses. [1] https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/447605/systems-engineer

I miss SABLE. I like it better than DDB, but I'm probably in the minority there. It made building high throughput services easy. I'm somewhat surprised it mentioned publicly.

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Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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post #24

Is Amazon comfortable enough to create single point of failure. What if DDB goes down assuming they run same stack for both retail and AWS?

They introduce change one region at a time usually. DDB did have outage many times and brought half of AWS operations down. But good question how they kept Amazon.com alive if some part of their systems rely on DDB.

[1]: https://aws.amazon.com/message/5467D2/

Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

#38
post #24

Is Amazon comfortable enough to create single point of failure. What if DDB goes down assuming they run same stack for both retail and AWS?

> What if DDB goes down

It's worth clarifying that question. What does "Go Down" mean? One region is down? Is it a bad software bug?

The database itself is fault tolerant. Nodes can go down all day without any real consequence. Each region is isolated, so a failure in one region won't affect other regions.

I guess I'm at a loss for the type of failure with DDB that would make it a SPOF, especially more than other datastores.

Re: Prime Day 2017: 12.9M DynamoDB requests per second

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Something I appreciate very much with AWS is how much dogfooding Amazon does. In contrast, Google has said in the past that GCP is not used by Google engineers (and it shows, occasionally GCP goes down but actual Google products do not!). There is also no clear indication that Microsoft is actively using the public deployment of Azure.

Part of is because gcp became a product much later in google's history. As a result, most of the products that were used were tied to internal google infra, and was hard to put on gcp.

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post #39

Something I appreciate very much with AWS is how much dogfooding Amazon does. In contrast, Google has said in the past that GCP is not used by Google engineers (and it shows, occasionally GCP goes down but actual Google products do not!). There is also no clear indication that Microsoft is actively using the public deployment of Azure.

Part of is because gcp became a product much later in google's history. As a result, most of the products that were used were tied to internal google infra, and was hard to put on gcp.

I think this will gradually change. Kubernetes came out of all the internal learning after all, I would be surprised if they aren't putting new greenfield stuff on GCP and other Google Cloud products.
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