Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

Post by sillysaurus3 » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 11:16 PM UTC

Tharre wrote: post #107

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #102

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I'd argue that ads already pick your pocket just for window shopping the page. There's no such thing as Adblock for video streams on Twitch anymore; the ads are burned into the stream, so you can't block them. (Hopefully YouTube won't switch to the same tech.) Is that picking your pocket just for watching a video steam? If not, why is a video steam materially different from consuming a website?

> the ads are burned into the stream, so you can't block them. Source? Adblock seems to work fine.

Post by IamCarbonMan » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 11:18 PM UTC

Yoric wrote: post #31

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According to the reddit thread on the matter, even at TPB's scale they were looking at only a month . I wonder why CoinHive isn't using WebGL for this.

Can you actually use WebGL for this? I mean, don't you need a user-visible graphics context? That's a serious question, I have used WebGL only once in my life and that was years ago. On the other hand, WebGPU looks exactly like the kind of technology that would make web-based GPU-enabled bitcoin mining realistic.

Post by slg » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 11:19 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #101

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As long as there is disclosure of it and the mining is relatively efficient, that is a very interesting business model. The site collects revenue relative to the amount of time users spend on the site and not the number of page/ad views. It is also a pretty seamless way to integrate micropayments from users into a site. Handing over a credit card number or similar is a big barrier to overcome while this requires no s…

> and the mining is relatively efficient That's a huge "if"; it's my understanding that most cryptocurrencies are currently only efficient with ASICs.

Post by sillysaurus3 » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 11:27 PM UTC

Tharre wrote: post #116

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #111

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https://help.getadblock.com/support/solutions/articles/60001... It's clearly the future of ad delivery. If you burn ads into video, you can't block them short of doing some kind of realtime detection against the video frames. It absolutely sucks because the pause button has become a "play ad" button. There's no way to temporarily pause anymore without showing an ad. Hopefully they won't realize they can do the same t…

The fix for that is simple, use an external player, then they can't mess with your stop/mute/whatever buttons. I still can't reproduce any of this though, I get 0 ads on any of the streams I clicked through. EDIT: To fix stop/start you of course need to keep buffering the video.

Post by IamCarbonMan » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 11:34 PM UTC

tokenizerrr wrote: post #114

IamCarbonMan wrote: post #105

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You don't know what my site requires, so you're assuming that whatever hosting you just randomly want to assume is sufficient is enough and so you can discredit my legitimate idea for a possible way to get the required cost to run my site, and possibly also make a little profit. Would you rather have me borrow user's time and attention with ads, or bottom a few of their precious millions of CPU cycles per second? And…

Ads obviously, as long as you're not using them to spread different kind of malware. It doesn't matter that much to me personally, I'll be blocking whatever garbage you put out anyway, but ads are objectively the better choice as they dont needlessly wreck the environment any further, nor cause unnecessary wear and tear on the hardware of your users. Anyway, I'd be very interested in hearing how a card game simulator…