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Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Privacy is one of those things I can't tangibly describe why I like it, but it just feels good to know that nothing is being saved, even in contrast to just targeting you for ads and nothing else.

We have a track record of things going south, fast, for societies that sacrifice privacy. It makes sense to tread warily with it.

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post #48

After reading this, I have two questions: 1. Are there any statistics showing the ratio of security issues between Android and iOS? 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers? To be honest, I'm wary of believing this, but I own a Nexus and if I had to give the benefit of the doubt to either Google or Apple, it would most certainly be Apple because they don't make business out of my data (or, not as mu…

I'm an Android user, but I feel the same way. I sometimes wonder what would happen if I were to create a new Google identity and start fresh. Would they try to re-establish my old email's profile and data to the new one without my consent?

Yes, definitely.

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After reading this, I have two questions: 1. Are there any statistics showing the ratio of security issues between Android and iOS? 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers? To be honest, I'm wary of believing this, but I own a Nexus and if I had to give the benefit of the doubt to either Google or Apple, it would most certainly be Apple because they don't make business out of my data (or, not as mu…

> 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers?

Probably a dumbphone, so neither Android nor iOS...

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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At least one company is "trying" keep my photos private. The other day Google Photo told my wife it had prepared an album for our trip to SFO. We were surprised because she already disabled Geo-tagging but whataya know... Google still figured it out!

Google Photos uses ML to tag photos and this feature released amidst much fanfare at Google I/O a couple of years ago. They don't need location data to geotag photos anymore.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600889/google-unveils-neu...

They took 126 million geotagged images from the web, bined them into 26,000 squares, and trained a neural net to predict which square on the earth an image was taken in. That's very poor resolution, but if you see that 20 images taken around the same time are tagged as the square that contains San Francisco, you can be pretty sure they all happened during a trip to San Francisco.

Reminds me of https://geoguessr.com

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep as someone who is in a cybersecurity job, it's almost trivial to hack Android.

Most Android devices at least, unless you have the latest Nex... Pixel or Samsung phone.

Considering this is HN, you're probably fine with any device as long as you run a patched OS on it. Which is fairly easy with LineageOS.

And they support a lot of devices. I dug out an old Moto G (1st generation, falcon) last week and it runs Lineage 14 (based on Android 7/Nougat) smoothly.

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On Android you can Sideload VPN apps, iOS on the otherhand banned them in China. Apple mounted the most successful attack on General Computing with it's walled garden. The whole Apple is good for privacy is marketing.

Android and its community are sorta schizophrenic towards security. On one hand, users are told that they should never ever, ever install applications from untrusted sources. They should always use the play store because applications are scanned for vulnerabilities and whatnot. On the other hand, we have people telling us that one of the great advantages of Android is that you can sideload apps - bypassing the store…

Root is not that hard to obtain on most devices. The instructions are straight-forward[1] and easy to follow, especially for anyone reading this thread.

But lately Google has decided that rooted phones are a security issue. So if you do choose to install some sort of su utility, some functions like Android Pay may cease to work, not because of technical reasons but because Google deliberately disables them on rooted phones.

[1] for example https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/lux/install

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After reading this, I have two questions: 1. Are there any statistics showing the ratio of security issues between Android and iOS? 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers? To be honest, I'm wary of believing this, but I own a Nexus and if I had to give the benefit of the doubt to either Google or Apple, it would most certainly be Apple because they don't make business out of my data (or, not as mu…

> 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers? Probably a dumbphone, so neither Android nor iOS...

Security researchers are people as well. Most would have smartphones as well, but possible try to use them differently then the rest.

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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> Apple has no way to decrypt iMessage and FaceTime data when it’s in transit between devices What about when it's not in transit between devices?

Well they decrypt it on your behalf when it's on your device. The point is that couldn't do that without your device/account.
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