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Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Privacy is one of those things I can't tangibly describe why I like it, but it just feels good to know that nothing is being saved, even in contrast to just targeting you for ads and nothing else.

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Google Photos uses ML to tag photos and this feature released amidst much fanfare at Google I/O a couple of years ago. They don't need location data to geotag photos anymore.

Thanks for explaining one possible method. It could still mean Google is tracking location "without consent". I suppose it depends on whether they use that location data for anything other than Google Photos.

"Could"? Sounds like they 'did' with OP's SFO album.

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Do they just block the GPLs or any FLOSS license?

Just GPLv3

That's the one with the anti-tivo clause. Presumably, they'd have to support jail breaking, etc if they distributed gplv3 software. (They could get around this by supporting side loading, of course...)

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On Android you can Sideload VPN apps, iOS on the otherhand banned them in China. Apple mounted the most successful attack on General Computing with it's walled garden. The whole Apple is good for privacy is marketing.

Android and its community are sorta schizophrenic towards security. On one hand, users are told that they should never ever, ever install applications from untrusted sources. They should always use the play store because applications are scanned for vulnerabilities and whatnot. On the other hand, we have people telling us that one of the great advantages of Android is that you can sideload apps - bypassing the store…

My perception is also that malware ends up in the Google Play Store with much higher frequency than the App Store. Just do a news search for "Google Play Store malware" and "App Store malware" and compare.

Also, one can sideload apps, if you have a Mac, onto iOS. Obviously, that's not anywhere as integrated but maybe that's a good thing. Heck, maybe Apple even added that so people in China could sideload VPNs. Maybe iOS VPNs are good enough (no root, no TOR?)?

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Sorry for the silly question. I don't own a mac or an iPhone anymore. My understanding is you can sideload apps on your own iPhone from your own mac running xcode. Are there limitations to what kind of apps you can side load using xcode?

Nothing installed that way can receive push notifications, though not all apps need or use then.

I'm not certain but I think push notifications can also be used "invisibly" to trigger data sync so this could mean limited functionality beyond just receiving "pop-ups".

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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If you have location enabled on your phone, Google appears to cross reference your location with your photo timestamps to work out where you were. I know this because when I import my DSLR images to Google Photos it estimates the location, usually very accurately.

I've also seen it geotag things based upon the content of the image alone. I went to the photo store not long ago and had dozens of rolls of negatives scanned, from a vacation to Europe 20 years ago. I uploaded them into Google Photos and it geotagged many of them automatically. They have a public API that does the same, it detects landmarks in images and can give you a lat/long position for it as well as a confidenc…

apple cloud did release a lot of celeb pics over the internet...let's not forget that

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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post #47

Apple does so many things well, actually. I would return to them for some things and even recommend them (versus exclusively GNU/Linux and LineageOS) if they'd only change the stupid iOS terms that prohibit GPL software.

Isn't the issue that the App Store doesn't have a mechanism to redistribute the source in a way that is compliant with the GPL? Is it fair to say Apple prohibits the GPL? Anyway that tried to sell GPL licensed software on the App Store is "breaking the law" so Apple prohibits it? Or is there more to it?

Specially the issue is that I cannot replace your binary with one I create myself from your source.

1. I can’t use your app ID

2. I can’t sign it with your cert

3. I can’t tie it to your website for deep links (because of #1)

It used to be the case that I couldn’t even get the binary to the device without paying $99/year, but that’s not necessary any more.

The dev program fee was definitely anti-GPL. I don’t know if the other things I mentioned are.

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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post #47

Apple does so many things well, actually. I would return to them for some things and even recommend them (versus exclusively GNU/Linux and LineageOS) if they'd only change the stupid iOS terms that prohibit GPL software.

Isn't the issue that the App Store doesn't have a mechanism to redistribute the source in a way that is compliant with the GPL? Is it fair to say Apple prohibits the GPL? Anyway that tried to sell GPL licensed software on the App Store is "breaking the law" so Apple prohibits it? Or is there more to it?

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-... goes into more detail, but the summary is:

> Apple's Terms of Service impose restrictive limits on use and distribution for any software distributed through the App Store, and the GPL doesn't allow that.

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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After reading this, I have two questions: 1. Are there any statistics showing the ratio of security issues between Android and iOS? 2. What's the most common phone among security researchers? To be honest, I'm wary of believing this, but I own a Nexus and if I had to give the benefit of the doubt to either Google or Apple, it would most certainly be Apple because they don't make business out of my data (or, not as mu…

I'm an Android user, but I feel the same way.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if I were to create a new Google identity and start fresh. Would they try to re-establish my old email's profile and data to the new one without my consent?

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