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Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Post by dangsdad »

mtgx wrote: post #7

> While we do back up iMessage and SMS messages for your convenience using iCloud Backup, you can turn it off whenever you want. Wouldn't they be able to hold that privacy promise much better if they actually allowed people to keep iCloud backup on let's say for pictures, but still be able to disable iMessage messages? I think many people would like to use iCloud but without it backing up personal conversations, too.…

tldr. Apple:securly sharing your most intimate secrets with the worlds 7.5billion people.

Suppose its better than M$ or Google insecurely sharing them.

But not as good as just not handing them out in the first place.

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Post by matt4077 »

mtgx wrote: post #7

> While we do back up iMessage and SMS messages for your convenience using iCloud Backup, you can turn it off whenever you want. Wouldn't they be able to hold that privacy promise much better if they actually allowed people to keep iCloud backup on let's say for pictures, but still be able to disable iMessage messages? I think many people would like to use iCloud but without it backing up personal conversations, too.…

Differential privacy is obviously worse for privacy than absolute privacy. But the latter is simply to restrictive and would preclude Apple from applying the benefits of machine learning to their users' benefit. I think, for example, what Apple is doing in health has some awesome potential. Also animated shit emojis!

But "differential privacy" has a specific meaning that isn't just "sharing less data". It's trying to find provable methods to get the aggregate data needed for ML without exposing any single user's data. Kinda like the big data version of having one random soldier with a blank in his rifle in any firing squad.

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Post by aub3bhat »

On Android you can Sideload VPN apps, iOS on the otherhand banned them in China. Apple mounted the most successful attack on General Computing with it's walled garden. The whole Apple is good for privacy is marketing.

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Post by 3825 »

aub3bhat wrote: post #13

On Android you can Sideload VPN apps, iOS on the otherhand banned them in China. Apple mounted the most successful attack on General Computing with it's walled garden. The whole Apple is good for privacy is marketing.

Sorry for the silly question. I don't own a mac or an iPhone anymore. My understanding is you can sideload apps on your own iPhone from your own mac running xcode. Are there limitations to what kind of apps you can side load using xcode?

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Post by ikawe »

3825 wrote: post #14
aub3bhat wrote: post #13

On Android you can Sideload VPN apps, iOS on the otherhand banned them in China. Apple mounted the most successful attack on General Computing with it's walled garden. The whole Apple is good for privacy is marketing.

Sorry for the silly question. I don't own a mac or an iPhone anymore. My understanding is you can sideload apps on your own iPhone from your own mac running xcode. Are there limitations to what kind of apps you can side load using xcode?

Nothing installed that way can receive push notifications, though not all apps need or use then.

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Post by megous »

R4nger wrote: post #5
phoe-krk wrote: post #2

So a cop can put your phone in front of your face while you're tied up and unable to do a thing. Boom, phone unlocked. Marvelous.

AFAIK if you keep your eyes closed, it doesn't unlock. Also, its still an improvement from when cops borrow your thumb. At least this way, you have less chance of getting hurt.

I'd rather lose my finger than my head, thank you.

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Post by Accacin »

mtgx wrote: post #7

> While we do back up iMessage and SMS messages for your convenience using iCloud Backup, you can turn it off whenever you want. Wouldn't they be able to hold that privacy promise much better if they actually allowed people to keep iCloud backup on let's say for pictures, but still be able to disable iMessage messages? I think many people would like to use iCloud but without it backing up personal conversations, too.…

I agree it's not perfect. I kind of get around it by disabling iCloud backup (which includes iMessage, etc.). I just use iCloud to back up photos, and I back up my phone locally.

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Post by schrodinger »

jobvandervoort wrote: post #8
intopieces wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS 11 allows you to disable touch or face ID by pressing the power button 5 times.

They changed this for the iPhone X: you press the lock and one of the volume buttons at the same time.

That's awesome. I wonder if cops could construe that into an "obstruction of justice" (or similar) offense?

Re: Our Approach to Privacy

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Post by maxpert »

At least one company is "trying" keep my photos private. The other day Google Photo told my wife it had prepared an album for our trip to SFO. We were surprised because she already disabled Geo-tagging but whataya know... Google still figured it out!
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