Do you guys know if it's possible to programmatically alter ETS environment? (such as weather, brightness, traffic, etc). Thinking of using the simulator to generate augmented data.
Europilot: A toolkit for Euro Truck Simulator to develop self-driving algorithms
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#22There is quite a lot of interest in a self driving car simulator. I wonder if we could use Kickstarter to raise some money to get the game maker to add simulated radar, lidar, and cameras. You should be able to customize the position of these sensors.
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#23This is brilliant! I built a similar system on top of Flight Simulator for an internship. So useful!
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#24Do you guys know if it's possible to programmatically alter ETS environment? (such as weather, brightness, traffic, etc). Thinking of using the simulator to generate augmented data.
Most likely. All those effects are already built-in, and it looks like there's a pretty comprehensive modding community.
There might not be an API callable from outside the app, though...
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really cool. Consider introducing this concept to an FPS game, at what point do you consider it to be an aimbot?
That is exactly what aimbots are. Sometimes you can make bots easier by using an addon system to export information(WoW), or themes to color your targets (CS), but at the root you read the screen and control the mouse.
No. At root you read and write the game's memory. Most aimbots just read the memory to get locations and call the game's own methods to adjust the aim from their injected dll. Barely any actually bother reading the screen, it's horribly inefficient and limited.
Re: Europilot: A toolkit for Euro Truck Simulator to develop self-driving algorithms
#26There is quite a lot of interest in a self driving car simulator. I wonder if we could use Kickstarter to raise some money to get the game maker to add simulated radar, lidar, and cameras. You should be able to customize the position of these sensors.
A self-driving car simulator would be interesting and maybe there's some chance at making it open source?
A self-driving sim, to be realistic, is also going to need realistic traffic simulation. I helped bring traffic modeling to the computer age, that is what my business did.
When asked for a quick description, I like to say that I built the greatest traffic simulator on the planet. Of course, I'm heavily biased. Eventually, we could even render some of that data into graphics.
Yeah, so it probably wasn't a thrilling simulator with broad appeal and it required a whole lot of compute power and huge data sets. Either way, it probably would have resulted in a good, albeit very large and computationally expensive, engine for a traffic simulating game.
I signed a non-compete that lasts for life. It may not actually be legally binding, but I feel ethically bound to it. But, a game would not be competing in that space - less so if it were FOSS.
What I'm trying to say is that I'd be interested in such a project, though I'd want to seek legal council. I can program a bit, but I eventually hired professionals to do that on my behalf. Let's just say that you probably don't want me submitting actual code, but I can almost certainly help with the math involved.
I'm just spitballing, really. If someone wants to do something like this, I'd be willing to take a peek and see if there were a way to contribute. I sold and retired, but I still hold great fondness for the art. Modeling traffic isn't easy, it's a chaotic system and you never really know the initial starting state.
So, if you decide to go FOSS, let me know. If it is in C, or C++, I might even remember enough to lend a hand coding, though that's probably a horrible idea. My entire code base was rewritten by actual competent people and programmers were different back then. They were quite comfortable expressing their frustrations with working on my existing code. They were, shall we say, very eager to share their knowledge - sometimes with various levels of vulgarity.
Anyhow, to model traffic at a high level of accuracy, even things like the reflectivity of lane markings will have a quantifiable impact on traffic. You can observe the effect by monitoring traffic before and after lane markings are painted. Traffic is even influenced by the fonts used in signage. Lots of seemingly small things can be accounted for and the models made more accurate.
I'd love to lend a hand, assuming it isn't going to get me sued.
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#27There is quite a lot of interest in a self driving car simulator. I wonder if we could use Kickstarter to raise some money to get the game maker to add simulated radar, lidar, and cameras. You should be able to customize the position of these sensors.
A self-driving car simulator would be interesting and maybe there's some chance at making it open source? A self-driving sim, to be realistic, is also going to need realistic traffic simulation. I helped bring traffic modeling to the computer age, that is what my business did. When asked for a quick description, I like to say that I built the greatest traffic simulator on the planet. Of course, I'm heavily biased. Ev…
So, which was the traffic simulator you worked on? I've always been fascinated by traffic and traffic modelling, read books [1], seen articles where they use cellular automata, psychology, discrete events, etc etc.
[1] https://www.amazon.com/Traffic-Drive-What-Says-About/dp/0307...
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#28There is quite a lot of interest in a self driving car simulator. I wonder if we could use Kickstarter to raise some money to get the game maker to add simulated radar, lidar, and cameras. You should be able to customize the position of these sensors.
On Feb 17th I posted this request to their forum:
https://forum.scssoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=229146
You can show your support by giving that post a +1.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
A self-driving car simulator would be interesting and maybe there's some chance at making it open source? A self-driving sim, to be realistic, is also going to need realistic traffic simulation. I helped bring traffic modeling to the computer age, that is what my business did. When asked for a quick description, I like to say that I built the greatest traffic simulator on the planet. Of course, I'm heavily biased. Ev…
So, which was the traffic simulator you worked on? I've always been fascinated by traffic and traffic modelling, read books [1], seen articles where they use cellular automata, psychology, discrete events, etc etc. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Traffic-Drive-What-Says-About/dp/0307...
I'd prefer to not disclose the specific names for reasons of a modicum of privacy. It's long since sold, anyhow.
But, yes! It's absolutely amazing what goes into modeling traffic as accurately as possible. When we expanded to model pedestrian traffic as well, we even went so far as to build a mock store.
It's fascinating to see how small changes can influence traffic and alter the throughput. Simple things, like frequency of signage has a large impact. There are also regional differences where whole regions will, as an average, drive very differently.
You can run all the models, collect all the data, and someone will still get drunk and reverse the wrong way on a one way street. You'll never get perfect predictions and so there are constant changes being made. That kept it interesting.
What I worked on was all proprietary. It'd be interesting to see an open source project in this arena.
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#30There is quite a lot of interest in a self driving car simulator. I wonder if we could use Kickstarter to raise some money to get the game maker to add simulated radar, lidar, and cameras. You should be able to customize the position of these sensors.
On Feb 17th I posted this request to their forum: https://forum.scssoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=229146 You can show your support by giving that post a +1.
Thanks for pointing me to this. You request is well written. I imagine they would want to be paid to build that. Did you ever ask the team to give you a quote?
Say for example they open source a plugin that outputs everything you requested but didn't disclose any IP related to the game.