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Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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For the average user, hiding the UI that much is a terrible and confusing experience.

How about showing the content paused with an overlay "Click to start playing" or similar?

I thing that's the solution for video.

Pause it and show a "play" button and an "autoplay" button on the video.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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> It's a shame that browsers increasingly have to actively defend against website behavior, You make this sound like a new trend but it was always thus. Didn't you live through the 90s before pop-up blockers were built in to browsers? Not to mentionvarious abusive plugins, attempts to trick you into installing toolbars, the hell that was RealPlayer, rewriting your history to prevent 'back', etc etc.

You're right, but the arms race has marched on. HTML5 has increased the amount of work I have to do, I miss the days when Flashblock was all I needed. (I would love to be wrong about this, please show me an HTML5 blocker with a site-based whitelist.)

Not quite clear on what a "HTML5" blocker is. I'm guessing you don't literally mean "block HTML5"...

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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I don't think it's a simple problem though. I want my videos on Youtube, Twitch and other similar sites to auto play, without having to click it manually every single time. We get into a whitelist/blacklist situation. The best way is to stick to one way, and allow users to fully unblock a site. Right now, it auto plays but you can fully blacklist a whole domain. I could also see it as everything is blocked and you wh…

It's even more complicated because I only want YouTube to autoplay when I open it in a foreground tab.

That is how YouTube behaves today. It doesn't play until you foreground the tab. I don't see why that would change.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Right, but how would the browser tell which is the main set of content?

Doesn't the flash code have metrics based on size? Size and closeness to the top seems pretty good.

That's just going to cause sites to edit the DOM after a video plays.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Yay! Thank goodness. I've got 3 different extensions trying to achieve that to some extent (Stop HTML5 Autoplay, Flashcontrol and uBlock for some elements the others miss). They still miss some bad stuff and block some good. I just wish they'd make it easy to block all video apart from things where you actually click the play button.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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I really want no auto playing of any multimedia. I wish browsers didn't support this functionality at all. The user should not ever be forced to do / go through something he does not expect to happen.

I think it's ok for specific video pages on multimedia-first sites, like Youtube. (I'm not a fan of autoplay when you go to a page with multiple results, such as a creator's page.) That's about it, though.

If you want autoplay on Youtube you should be able click a whitelist button similar to the 'do you want notifications?' popup.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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What about YouTube? I'm sure they'll add an exception for it, but it technically does classify as automatically playing a video when you click on a link.

Just allow it for youtube, while keeping everything else blocked. Whitelisting is the best option because there aren't that many websites primarily about playing video. Nobody goes to Youtube for other activities. Clicking a video link means you intend watching. News websites are the worst. Clicking a news article means I want to read the article, not watch a video. If I want to watch the video on a news website (rar…

Whitelisting is about the worst thing you could do. It makes any kind of competition and therefore inovation on the web impossible and under the vendor's control. Simply ask the user to allow autoplay, same as you would with mic or camera permissions.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Chrome's "own ad blocker" mentioned in the article sounds good in theory, but seems like a slippery slope to eventually making it simply show only Google's own ads.

Exactly! This isn't something that could happen, this is something that absolutely WILL happen. And when it does, Google will have won yet another battle against the decentralized web.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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The latest craziness is "news" websites that have an autoplay video + an autoplay ad, and their actual content is just another video, because apparently reading 10 lines of text is harder than sitting through a two minute slideshow with the same ten lines of text and some pretty pictures. It's getting ridiculous.

And this is why we can't have nice things. FWIW I agree with the decision to stop autoplaying, but it's worth pointing out that it does have negative consequences: - Stops YouTube (et al) videos autoplaying (whitelist to fix?) - Probably stops games playing music when first opened (e.g., https://arcade.ly/games/asteroids/ , although note I have settings to disable music and SFX) God forbid we get to a point where aut…

We've had plugins to stop automatic execution of JS for a while. I used one for about 6 months, then one day I got a new computer and didn't bother to install it... it's only when I find pages like the one I described above that I think (for like two seconds) "oh, NoScript would've stopped that." So it's only a few bad players ruining it for most of us, as you say.
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