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Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by 0xfeba »

outsidetheparty wrote: post #43
andybak wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a shame that browsers increasingly have to actively defend against website behavior, You make this sound like a new trend but it was always thus. Didn't you live through the 90s before pop-up blockers were built in to browsers? Not to mentionvarious abusive plugins, attempts to trick you into installing toolbars, the hell that was RealPlayer, rewriting your history to prevent 'back', etc etc.

ah phooey just let me have my totally unwarranted nostalgia for imaginary better days gone by

I wish we lived in a place more like the America of yesteryear that only exists in the brains of us Republicans.

- Ned Flanders

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

xeromal wrote: post #44
giancarlostoro wrote: post #23

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I really want no auto playing of any multimedia. I wish browsers didn't support this functionality at all. The user should not ever be forced to do / go through something he does not expect to happen.

What about GIFs?

Click to play.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by jessriedel »

CM30 wrote: post #67

I'm probably missing something here, but the document says that media autoplay is allowed if visitors keep visiting the site and interacting with the video player: > The MEI score will be computed as is: > If number_of_visits Return 0 > Else > Return number_significant_playback / number_of_visits https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_278v_plodvgtXSgnEJ0yjZJ... Doesn't that mean some of the worst sites affected by this…

Yea, it seems like site-specific permission settings are the way on this. The "Do you want to share your location with this website?" check seems to work fairly well. I think "Do you want to allow videos with sound to autoplay?" would too.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by nix0n »

andybak wrote: post #35
outsidetheparty wrote: post #4

It's a start. Allowing users to disable autoplay altogether would be better, but shutting down the audio is better than nothing. It's a shame that browsers increasingly have to actively defend against website behavior, instead of just being tools for displaying those websites; but, well, here we are.

> It's a shame that browsers increasingly have to actively defend against website behavior, You make this sound like a new trend but it was always thus. Didn't you live through the 90s before pop-up blockers were built in to browsers? Not to mentionvarious abusive plugins, attempts to trick you into installing toolbars, the hell that was RealPlayer, rewriting your history to prevent 'back', etc etc.

You're right, but the arms race has marched on.

HTML5 has increased the amount of work I have to do, I miss the days when Flashblock was all I needed.

(I would love to be wrong about this, please show me an HTML5 blocker with a site-based whitelist.)

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by lamontcg »

icebraining wrote: post #47
giancarlostoro wrote: post #32

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Like I said, it's fine if it's expected.... If it's the ONLY video in the whole page, and it's the main set of content.

Right, but how would the browser tell which is the main set of content?

Let me control it.

Be dumb and stupid and off by default, and if I want to watch videos on a site, I'll enable it.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by jessriedel »

ehsankia wrote: post #70
dguaraglia wrote: post #63

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The latest craziness is "news" websites that have an autoplay video + an autoplay ad, and their actual content is just another video, because apparently reading 10 lines of text is harder than sitting through a two minute slideshow with the same ten lines of text and some pretty pictures. It's getting ridiculous.

I don't think it's a simple problem though. I want my videos on Youtube, Twitch and other similar sites to auto play, without having to click it manually every single time. We get into a whitelist/blacklist situation. The best way is to stick to one way, and allow users to fully unblock a site. Right now, it auto plays but you can fully blacklist a whole domain. I could also see it as everything is blocked and you wh…

It could be a permission (like sharing location) or maybe a permission that can only be requested after the user clicks play on a few videos. (That would prevent me having to select "no" to every trash website that requests permissions, like Chrome allowed with pushed content permissions in the past.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by lamontcg »

drewg123 wrote: post #59
danso wrote: post #7

Autoplay seems to be something universally reviled and yet the trend seemed to be that enough people tolerated it to make advertisers and sites double down on it: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/19/facebook-... > During Facebook’s announcement of the feature in February, product manager Dana Sittler and engineering manager Alex Li said: “As people watch more video on phones, they’ve come to expect sou…

I've pretty much stopped going to CNN because of this. I have managed to block a lot of this video by using privacy badger and blocking the underlying CDNs where it is played from. However, I've never been able to block CNN effectively, so I've just given up on them.

Newsweek's autoplay is literally cancer. I've got the disable HTML5 autoplay, but the newsweek site is so aggressive about autoplaying that it bugs out the browser.

Re: Google Chrome to stop autoplaying content with sound

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Post by nhtaoe78th2 »

danso wrote: post #7

Autoplay seems to be something universally reviled and yet the trend seemed to be that enough people tolerated it to make advertisers and sites double down on it: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/19/facebook-... > During Facebook’s announcement of the feature in February, product manager Dana Sittler and engineering manager Alex Li said: “As people watch more video on phones, they’ve come to expect sou…

Facebook's motivation is not that users of the site want it. It's that when they autoplay it they get to lie to advertisers and claim that "users engaged with the video content for x seconds," and charge them accordingly.

Every person I see using Facebook scrolls past the vast majority of videos in their feed as fast as they can because they don't want it to start playing. And then when they do find one they want to play, it's this race to pause the video and rewind it to the beginning as they make it full screen and start it over so they can see the whole thing. Then at the end, they have to stop the auto-scrolling to the next one so they can go back and see the funny part they liked, or whatever. It's so ridiculous.

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