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Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Post by aaron-lebo »

microcolonel wrote: post #98
shadytrees wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

all alt-right stuff. flag and move on

Here's a list of some non-alt-right profiles I tossed a rock and found. In fact, none of the top profiles appear to be alt-right at all. https://www.minds.com/Timcast [Independent journalist who frequently embeds himself in mild to hot political protests and is fairly careful with his words] https://www.minds.com/Styxhexenhammer [Occult author, political/general commentator, plus some more light content] https://www.…

They might not be "alt right", but they're really fascinated by it. Here's Timcast:

Propaganda, tribalism, and Ben Shapiro in Berkeley

The Alt-Left double standard.

What is bit coin and can you still make money by investing?

Here's the second user:

Pewdiepie did nothing wrong. Anyone acting offended is probably lying through their teeth.

The people who know/care about Shapiro are conservative, same goes for those defending a guy who makes jokes about Jews and uses the n-word.

Your third user just happens to "retweet" the first. It's a very small and focused community there. Also from the last user:

BREAKING: Now is your chance to become a founding investor of Minds. We are taking the idea of a people-powered global network to the next level. Invest now before we reach our goal!

That explains the evangelism?

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

#103

Post by alexanderdmitri »

Kiro wrote: post #90
alexanderdmitri wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll try to address each of your questions / points individually. The quote from me is probably too strongly worded on my part, but I really don't see the added value. You may have made it instrumental to your social life, but my personal opinion is the price is too high. Unfortunately, when the majority of people choose to pay the price, it switches from being a personal choice to being an expected exchange. This is…

I don't want any physical mails and I never pick up when people call me. That you seem to think this is something everyone loves is telling. We're simply different creatures and that's why I use Facebook and you don't.

We're different creatures in an analogous sense, sure.

I'm simply raising privacy concerns I have and I believe it affects us all. I was disappointed this model did not address it. Invasion of privacy, profiling and tracking are big issues in my opinion and I would be curious to know why you don't think they are worth mentioning.

I do think phone calls, and spoken word in general, are highly effective. You are not helping yourself socially by refusing to speak to people who are calling you and if none of your friends or loved ones call you, there is likely a problem (I don't know your exact circumstances). I also think it's a fair claim that people are much more likely to value a hand-written letter over a chat forum message. You are offering something tangible!

I'm just proposing alternatives to socialization on a platform like FB which really is, I think, hurting natural and more effective means of communication and self presentation. I'm not saying there isn't a good place and use for internet chatting and what-not, those are great social tools too.

Just to repeat, my main point is I don't think we should have our social lives commoditized. I do not think we should be profiled and tracked across the internet. I see this ending very badly. That's all.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Post by coldtea »

>Most people told us it would never work, but we did it anyway: We started charging 10¢ to post content on our social network. Our users didn’t leave. In fact, they are posting more than ever, and the quality of content has improved. Our experiment seems to be working. People are willing to pay to post content. That is not the only thing we’ve done differently. Our users can submit content with a pay wall, at a location and price of their choosing, and charge to access the full version of their content. Most users charge 10¢. Quality content sells. Sometimes for $1.00 or more. Many people told us this would never work, but it seems they were wrong. Our users are willing to pay for good content.

I think those users meant "it will never work at scale".

Seeing that yours is a totally obscure social network -- it might be OK for a small niche.

Heck, The Well charges for belonging to a discussion group.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Post by scriptdevil »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #101
microcolonel wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a list of some non-alt-right profiles I tossed a rock and found. In fact, none of the top profiles appear to be alt-right at all. https://www.minds.com/Timcast [Independent journalist who frequently embeds himself in mild to hot political protests and is fairly careful with his words] https://www.minds.com/Styxhexenhammer [Occult author, political/general commentator, plus some more light content] https://www.…

They might not be "alt right", but they're really fascinated by it. Here's Timcast: Propaganda, tribalism, and Ben Shapiro in Berkeley The Alt-Left double standard. What is bit coin and can you still make money by investing? Here's the second user: Pewdiepie did nothing wrong. Anyone acting offended is probably lying through their teeth. The people who know/care about Shapiro are conservative, same goes for those def…

Ben Shapiro is definitely not the "alt-right". Unless by the alt-right you mean all conservatives. He was heavily targeted by the alt-right since he supported Cruz and he still is on the fence about Trump (criticizes him fairly often). Also he is an Orthodox Jew.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

#106

Post by aaron-lebo »

scriptdevil wrote: post #105
aaron-lebo wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might not be "alt right", but they're really fascinated by it. Here's Timcast: Propaganda, tribalism, and Ben Shapiro in Berkeley The Alt-Left double standard. What is bit coin and can you still make money by investing? Here's the second user: Pewdiepie did nothing wrong. Anyone acting offended is probably lying through their teeth. The people who know/care about Shapiro are conservative, same goes for those def…

Ben Shapiro is definitely not the "alt-right". Unless by the alt-right you mean all conservatives. He was heavily targeted by the alt-right since he supported Cruz and he still is on the fence about Trump (criticizes him fairly often). Also he is an Orthodox Jew.

He's Townhall, WND, Breitbart which all share a common background with birtherism and people like Bannon. He's just mad that his brand of reactionary conservatism isn't on top.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Post by coldtea »

mollusk wrote: post #99
alexanderdmitri wrote: post #66

As an American kid born along with the digital epoch of the 90s, I'm a bit of an oddity because the only social media I've ever used (& still use) is LinkedIn, which feels like sharing a room with a vipor. I have it set up with a dedicated email address and I only interact w/it in a sandboxed browser on VPN with a dedicated email address. (I guess you could add HN, StackExchange and GitHub to the list since there are…

>And they are not helping your damn social life! First of all, I use Facebook in a similar way (dedicated email, sandboxed browser, external tracking disabled (I know it still tracks me internally), not entirely my real name, no mobile apps, all paranoia privacy settings on, don't really share anything). And I only signed up there a year or two ago. But Facebook absolutely helped my social (and even professional) lif…

>Facebook lets me keep up with cultural (art/music) events, and also local dev meetups.

It's 2017. Between aggregators, dedicated sites, instant notifications, apps, Calendar sync et all, we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups.

I don't think 60s', 70s and 80s culture and art events (and event goers) suffered because they didn't have Facebook to tell them... if anything, from concerts to art exhibition the scene was even more vibrant!

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

#108

Post by coldtea »

madshiva wrote: post #96
joehewitt wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel that social networks were a waste of time (even when I worked for Facebook) but in the last couple years that has changed. My social life has been dramatically improved by Facebook because I started using it to socialize with people who share my hobby (growing fruit). Through Facebook groups I've made a number of new friends I never would have met otherwise. We communicate and share details of our hobb…

I still think that the information is not well organize. I prefer goes to a standard forum of the 90' to share things. For what I see on Facebook or social network is : - look at me - post without arguing or even answer, discussion. - look at me - stalking - quote about life - game - cat meme 0% construction, information is not well organize, scrolling..

Apparently for the majority of people "look at me - post without arguing or even answer, discussion. - look at me - stalking - quote about life - game - cat meme" are just the ticket!

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

#109

Post by olegkikin »

jpindar wrote: post #3

>People love to pay money to vote on things. Who would have thought? Anyone who's active in virtual worlds knows people love to buy content and tip creators and performers. >Why didn’t micropayments ever take off? No one ever tried. Except virtual worlds, which have whole economies based on micropayments.

My mind was recently blown by how much people tip on gamer streams. I was watching Shroud play PUBG, he suddenly gets tipped $550, doesn't even acknowledge it.

Apparently $10-20K tips happen quite often:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/231p6e/sum...

So yeah, if you're entertaining enough, people will throw money at you.

Re: A Social Network That Costs 10¢ to Post

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Post by mollusk »

coldtea wrote: post #107
mollusk wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And they are not helping your damn social life! First of all, I use Facebook in a similar way (dedicated email, sandboxed browser, external tracking disabled (I know it still tracks me internally), not entirely my real name, no mobile apps, all paranoia privacy settings on, don't really share anything). And I only signed up there a year or two ago. But Facebook absolutely helped my social (and even professional) lif…

> Facebook lets me keep up with cultural (art/music) events, and also local dev meetups. It's 2017. Between aggregators, dedicated sites, instant notifications, apps, Calendar sync et all, we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups. I don't think 60s', 70s and 80s culture and art events (and event goers) suffered because they didn't have…

It might be more country specific (I don't live in the United States, nor in a metropolis), and specific to the art/music scene and venues I'm interested in, but Facebook really covers most bases for me. And I often discover great events because some Facebook friend is interested in them. Some dev meetups are crossposted to meetup.com or eventbrite.com, but only some, and Facebook aggregates both for me. There's even a group for local IT events.

I understand that things happened before 21st century, obviously, there's still posters, word of mouth, newsletters (in some cases, but they're not that popular over here), but these days, at least where I live, event organizers are using Facebook as a core platform to spread awareness. I certainly didn't know about a lot of these events before I joined Facebook.

And there's events like bike rides, hiking trips etc. organized by individuals... on Facebook.

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