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Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by xie_alan »

jlgaddis wrote: post #78

Off-topic (but somewhat related, perhaps?) question for any of you who and submitted the form (no cheating, please!): What type of SSL certificate -- DV or EV -- did the Legalist web site have, if any? I'm just interested in {whether|how many of} you bothered to look before submitting your information. (I'm asking because I was reminded of a recent HN discussion about DV/EV certificates and this seemed as good of a "…

I'd be interested in reading that discussion if you have it handy. I've been looking into SSL recently for some personal sites and the easiest method has been a combination of GitHub pages / Cloudflare. I might be mistaken, but aren't EV certs just a cash grab by the issuing authorities?

Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by jlgaddis »

xie_alan wrote: post #91
jlgaddis wrote: post #78

Off-topic (but somewhat related, perhaps?) question for any of you who and submitted the form (no cheating, please!): What type of SSL certificate -- DV or EV -- did the Legalist web site have, if any? I'm just interested in {whether|how many of} you bothered to look before submitting your information. (I'm asking because I was reminded of a recent HN discussion about DV/EV certificates and this seemed as good of a "…

I'd be interested in reading that discussion if you have it handy. I've been looking into SSL recently for some personal sites and the easiest method has been a combination of GitHub pages / Cloudflare. I might be mistaken, but aren't EV certs just a cash grab by the issuing authorities?

> I'd be interested in reading that discussion if you have it handy.

Sure. It was a discussion [0] of an article by Troy Hunt entitled "On the Perceived Value of EV Certs, Commercial CAs, Phishing and Let's Encrypt" [1].

(There have been a few other recent discussions [2,3] that also mentioned EV that you might be interested in.)

> I've been looking into SSL recently for some personal sites and the easiest method has been a combination of GitHub pages / Cloudflare.

That seems to be a pretty common setup (for "easy"), as well as static sites on AWS S3, etc.

Most of my sites run WordPress on my own (physical) servers so I can't personally comment on those methods.

> ...aren't EV certs just a cash grab by the issuing authorities?

That seems to be the popular opinion (at least here on HN), though I can understand the desire to use EV over DV in certain situations.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14805233

[1]: https://www.troyhunt.com/on-the-perceived-value-ev-certs-cas...

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14749565

[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15221119

Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by i_cant_speel »

traek wrote: post #54
i_cant_speel wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He did answer your question. "But if you do file the case and win $1000, we'll recover alongside you"

She* [0] [0] https://www.linkedin.com/in/eshang/

Oops. I thought about that after I submitted the comment, but the app I was using doesn't give me the option to edit the comment.

Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by spinlock »

i_cant_speel wrote: post #23
spinlock wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI - when you dodge the question this way, you look as bad as equifax. What is in it for you? Do you take a percentage of the judgement? I'll probably end up paying a lawyer to advise me on the best way to get back at Equifax. But, I'm not going to do business with you because you're shady and won't disclose your interest in this case.

He did answer your question. "But if you do file the case and win $1000, we'll recover alongside you"

That really doesn't answer my question. If I win $1000, how much do I then owe? I'm cool with not recovering anything but I don't even know if my liability is capped at the judgement against Equifax.

It's funny how many people are upset by my comment. The only thing I can say is that, when I hire a lawyer, the point is to have them clarify the law for me and translate it into plain english. If a lawyer won't even put their own fees into plain english, I don't believe they are working for me so I won't hire them.

Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by spinlock »

evashang wrote: post #20
spinlock wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI - when you dodge the question this way, you look as bad as equifax. What is in it for you? Do you take a percentage of the judgement? I'll probably end up paying a lawyer to advise me on the best way to get back at Equifax. But, I'm not going to do business with you because you're shady and won't disclose your interest in this case.

Hey! As you'll find on our website, we take a third of the judgment as a contingency stake, as per our usual practice.

Do you have a link? I looked over your website and I found no information about you fees.

Re: Tell HN: We'll pay for you to sue Equifax

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Post by spinlock »

mikestew wrote: post #40
spinlock wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI - when you dodge the question this way, you look as bad as equifax. What is in it for you? Do you take a percentage of the judgement? I'll probably end up paying a lawyer to advise me on the best way to get back at Equifax. But, I'm not going to do business with you because you're shady and won't disclose your interest in this case.

What is in it for you? Do you take a percentage of the judgement? Just because you don't know how lawyerin' works is no excuse to be insulting. They take a contingency, like every other friggin' lawyer on the planet. (No financial interest, don't know the founders from Adam, yada, yada)

Con-artists are the only people who want you to think that it's insulting to ask them how they are compensated. I've worked with plenty of lawyers over the years and none of the ethical ones have ever balked at explaining their fee structure.

The class against Equifax is huge and you should absolutely be aware that less than ethical lawyers are going to come out of the woodwork making all sorts of promises so that they can get their slice of what Equifax is going to pay out. The lawyers that I want to work with will either charge me an hourly fee or they will be upfront that my involvement in a class means that I'll be helping to punish Equifax but that I'll be forgoing most damages to do so.

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