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Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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So.. I'm assuming Apple is not full on ignoring the `Set-Cookie` http response header, or persistent sessions as we know it are gone. ..Right?

They are giving the cookies a lifespan, which is more aggressive if the user never interacts with the domain in question. This mainly affects tracking cookies as the user never interacts with anything on the tracking domain.

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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post #20

> They argue it'll hurt user experience and campaign targeting Uh, it's the ads that are hurting the user experience. And I don't particularly care if your targeting suffers.

Here's a better euphemism: > “Blocking cookies in this manner will drive a wedge between brands and their customers, . . ." How about: . . . will drive a wedge between brands the those who they want to exploit.

I don't think brands are the ones doing the exploitation. They just want me to buy their new doodad. AdTech is doing all the exploiting here, it seems to me, on both sides.

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When their main revenue is ads? Will there be "acceptable ads"?

Yes, of course. Even ad block plus has 'acceptable' ads. Especially in the case of Google, their ads are def 'acceptable' :)

Which is exactly why most friends and colleagues have switched to uBlock Origin or similar plugins.

Whitelisting is not the solution. Letting the entire industry die in the pit they've dug for themselves is the solution.

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

#25

So.. I'm assuming Apple is not full on ignoring the `Set-Cookie` http response header, or persistent sessions as we know it are gone. ..Right?

I'm guessing they aren't messing with first-party cookies, just third party ones.

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

#27
Were there a publicly-traded company that manufactures small violins (preferably the one that makes "world's smallest"), I'd go long on their stock right now.

I mean, who do they expect to persuade with this? Is there anyone not tied to the adtech industry shouting, "Damn you, Apple, and your assault on open web standards!" 'cuz me, I'm thinking, "without even reading the article, if the ad industry is upset about it, it must be good."

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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So.. I'm assuming Apple is not full on ignoring the `Set-Cookie` http response header, or persistent sessions as we know it are gone. ..Right?

https://webkit.org/blog/7675/intelligent-tracking-prevention... has the details.

Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari

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post #4

This is coming. Chrome is implementing a built in ad blocker. Advertisers and content providers can either start getting used to the idea now and get ahead of the trend. Or they can watch their business model suffer and scramble to catch up later.

Of course Google's ads will be deemed as "acceptable" with their own ad blocker. What are the chances that Google will add the capability to allow for third party "content blockers" that block ads in Chrome for Android? Apple has allowed third party content blockers for iOS for years.

Well I see this playing out similar to the Adblocker scandal (i.e. pay Google to get on a special "Google Approved" list, and then you'll bypass the blocker.)
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