What Science Says to Do If Your Loved One Has an Opioid Addiction

Post by JamesBarney » Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 4:09 PM UTC

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In my opinion you can't simply discard the debate as comparing apples to oranges... There are many similarities. It's a drug addiction at the end of the day.

So, we should give alcoholics naloxone? Okay, so now we've established that alcohol and opiates do different things in the brain. So, at this point, I'm going to ask you: "Why should you assume similarity rather than assuming difference?" Just because viruses and bacteria are both harmful does not mean we should use antibiotics for both.

Post by zaroth » Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 5:57 PM UTC

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I'd like to see a control for the amount of money spent on legal defense. The anecdote in that report itself suggests that it's the skill level of the defense attorney which is most likely a dominant factor. From someone I know with personal experience, after they were charged with possession with intent to distribute due to growing pot, they had 3 choices. Go to jail, spend $X on an attorney who would get them proba…

I'd like to see a control for the amount of money spent on legal defense. So, then, why would black people spend less money on legal defense?

Post by criddell » Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 6:27 PM UTC

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I've been thinking about similar things in the context of a basic income. If we were to just pass a law and guarantee a significant basic income I think it would have disastrous effects and fail miserably. A guaranteed income is a good goal, but before we do that we need to figure out how to replace meaningful employment with other meaningful activities. People need a purpose. If we can alter our culture and separate…

I think you are way over estimating the amount of meaningful work, as well as how many people with meaningful work would be on basic income. Most of the people on basic income would be people who were previously flipping burgers at McDonald's not directors as 80000 hours.

Post by emodendroket » Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 7:05 PM UTC

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With churches, there are a few problems that are intellectually repellent, meaning they won't solve for certain personality types. Namely: 1. artificial social heirarchy 2. magical thinking 3. group think 4. rules without reason Part of religion is often about imposing order on the irrational aspects of experience and reality, but there's a lot of centuries-old cruft and inertia behind the ones that exist. When you t…

> With churches, there are a few problems that are intellectually repellent, meaning they won't solve for certain personality types. Unitarian Universalist churches are good for community and avoid most of these negatives in my experience.

Post by emodendroket » Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 7:10 PM UTC

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I think you are way over estimating the amount of meaningful work, as well as how many people with meaningful work would be on basic income. Most of the people on basic income would be people who were previously flipping burgers at McDonald's not directors as 80000 hours.

You have to think longer term. Eventually, there may be very few jobs done by people. Medicine, law, many fields of engineering, agriculture, and even film making and novel writing may be performed by machines at a level as good as or better than the best people. But yeah, in the next decade it's burger flippers and delivery drivers.