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Killing in Kansas Bar Put Victim’s Widow at Risk of Deportation

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[Currently, immigration law dictates that only 7 percent of the green cards issued each year can be given to residents of any one country.

Mr. Yoder noted that between 230,000 and two million Indian workers are in line for a green card, which means that they could be waiting for decades, if not longer.]

It really puts Immigrants from populous countries like India and China at disadvantage. Personally I waited for 12 years to get my green card to start my company as Internet boom, Web2.0 boom passed in front of my eyes.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_cases_make_bad_law

The situation sucks and you can't help but feel terrible for her, but please let's not change the law based on this. And if we do, let's deport the murderer to the middle of the Pacific ocean.

Immigration laws need to change, but not in response to this.

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So, I am not knowledgeable about this. Is a person from another country who is in the US on an H-1B visa considered an immigrant?

It is all semantics at this point. H-1B is a dual intent visa. It is a working visa with the option for the holder to be sponsored for a green card. (through work, or family).

If the person doesn't want to apply for Green Card (Permanent Resident), then he/she are considered a temporary high skilled worker.

If they do apply, then yes. They are 'immigrants' until they get naturalized, aka, become us citizens, as their intent is to immigrate in the us.

In comparison, holders of F-1 (student visas), B-1 (business visas), are not considered immigrants, as they are supposed to return to their own countries after finishing their studies/work/visiting.

Re: Killing in Kansas Bar Put Victim’s Widow at Risk of Deportation

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[Currently, immigration law dictates that only 7 percent of the green cards issued each year can be given to residents of any one country. Mr. Yoder noted that between 230,000 and two million Indian workers are in line for a green card, which means that they could be waiting for decades, if not longer.] It really puts Immigrants from populous countries like India and China at disadvantage. Personally I waited for 12…

I mean that limitation makes sense when optimizing for diversity.

Re: Killing in Kansas Bar Put Victim’s Widow at Risk of Deportation

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[Currently, immigration law dictates that only 7 percent of the green cards issued each year can be given to residents of any one country. Mr. Yoder noted that between 230,000 and two million Indian workers are in line for a green card, which means that they could be waiting for decades, if not longer.] It really puts Immigrants from populous countries like India and China at disadvantage. Personally I waited for 12…

This is a good thing. You end up with cultural ghettos if too many people from one culture move to a place too quickly.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_cases_make_bad_law The situation sucks and you can't help but feel terrible for her, but please let's not change the law based on this. And if we do, let's deport the murderer to the middle of the Pacific ocean. Immigration laws need to change, but not in response to this.

> And if we do, let's deport the murderer to the middle of the Pacific ocean.

Why should other countries care for or suffer your country's criminals? Of course, unless you meant some uninhabited island or dropping him in the water... Other than that, keep him.

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[Currently, immigration law dictates that only 7 percent of the green cards issued each year can be given to residents of any one country. Mr. Yoder noted that between 230,000 and two million Indian workers are in line for a green card, which means that they could be waiting for decades, if not longer.] It really puts Immigrants from populous countries like India and China at disadvantage. Personally I waited for 12…

I mean that limitation makes sense when optimizing for diversity.

The genetic & cultural differences between two random Indian provinces is probably far larger than between Sweden & Norway.

Re: Killing in Kansas Bar Put Victim’s Widow at Risk of Deportation

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_cases_make_bad_law The situation sucks and you can't help but feel terrible for her, but please let's not change the law based on this. And if we do, let's deport the murderer to the middle of the Pacific ocean. Immigration laws need to change, but not in response to this.

I believe it is possible for a congress person to naturalize this person by writing a bill.

It is not feasible for groups of people, but it works for special-case individuals.

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