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Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by primemod3 »

edanm wrote: post #39
erikpukinskis wrote: post #37

I signed up, but didn't install the Chrome extension. I think you need to be a lot clearer about what exactly is going on. For example, if I install the Chrome extension, and then visit my banking site, are you indexing my bank statements? Do you only index pages we click Historify on? The answer to that question ought to be in the privacy policy. You're asking us to install an extension and give you access to EVERYT…

I didn't think about the "indexing everything" from what they said. But now that you mention it, it does sound like a great app. You could have an extension that indexes everything the user goes to. The trick would be making it usable; I almost never use the "history" in my browser, because it tends to never find what I'm looking for. But if you try and solve it in a centralized way, you could do several interesting…

I created a Firefox Addon and website for it last year that did everything you just wrote about, but I've since closed the project down. Let me know if you or anyone is interested in resurrecting it.

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by crux »

Since this is being positioned as a bookmark search engine rather than repository, I think it would be awful useful to provide a couple-line excerpt under each search result, just like in a standard search engine. As it is, one needs to guess a little bit why any given result is given for a search.

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

crux wrote: post #62

Since this is being positioned as a bookmark search engine rather than repository, I think it would be awful useful to provide a couple-line excerpt under each search result, just like in a standard search engine. As it is, one needs to guess a little bit why any given result is given for a search.

Hmm, this is actually a good idea and I'm not sure why we don't do it right now. I will add it to the tracker and we will try to implement it soon!

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

pclark wrote: post #59
StavrosK wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your feedback, it is very valuable to us as we're always looking for ways to explain what we do better. The beauty of historious is that you actually find yourself using it a lot, because bookmarking with it is very cheap, just one click with no lists to clean up. The image we do need to change, as it blends in too much. The email confirmation is just for resetting your password, we don't use it for muc…

Why not store everything?

Many reasons, it's too slow especially if you have limited bandwidth, data becomes much more sensitive (e.g. password, banking details, etc etc), but most importantly, it increases the noise so much you can't find anything at all in the end...

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

woodall wrote: post #58
watmough wrote: post #52

You seem have a problem in Safari 4. If I select the bookmarklet text, then drag it to the bookmarks bar, then only the first line was added as a bookmark. [NOTE: I just noticed there is an actual bookmark as I suggested below. OK.] I ended up editing the breaks out of the text to get the bookmark to work. You should probably bury the bookmarklet text in a link, and have the user drag that to the bookmarks bar. Also,…

>Also, you are not sniffing Safari 4 correctly. I get a message that it is an unrecognized browser! I would be careful about this. Sniffing browsers isn't always a good idea. Instead, let users drag their own bookmarklet- that correspond with their browser type- to the toolbar. Or keep sniffing and if you do receive an "unrecognized browser" response fall back to a page of that type.

The bookmarklet is the same, the sniffing is for the instructions. The problem is that we want the code below to be the same as the one in the bookmarklet, so we use the same file for both, but for some reason newlines are not removed. I will change that now to make it work with Safari...

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

watmough wrote: post #52

You seem have a problem in Safari 4. If I select the bookmarklet text, then drag it to the bookmarks bar, then only the first line was added as a bookmark. [NOTE: I just noticed there is an actual bookmark as I suggested below. OK.] I ended up editing the breaks out of the text to get the bookmark to work. You should probably bury the bookmarklet text in a link, and have the user drag that to the bookmarks bar. Also,…

I'm sorry, do you mean that the actual bookmarklet doesn't work, or the text below? You're only supposed to use the text if the bookmarklet fails, we just wrap it for display...

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

woodall wrote: post #57

Where are my bookmarks? I added them, but I can't find an easy way to see them- although I can search through them. The auto tweet option is cool, but what about a "post to FaceBook" option. Might help you adopt a few more people. URL shortening service might also be something to look at- historio.us/linkid. You will have to switch some stuff up, like the key- historio.us/user/key_value. Allow me to also change my em…

Thank you for your feedback, let me address the points one by one:

1) You can't see your bookmark, that's the point. You don't have to see them unless you're looking for them! However, we realise people might need to see the entire list, so you can search for * or "http" to get a list of your bookmarks. The * search is a bit broken right now, but we are working to fix it.

2) Facebook posting is also planned!

3) Thanks for that idea, I will add it to our tracker!

4) That is also a good idea, we will have to resend you a validation email but that's fine. OpenID would also be great, we want to support it very very much and will do after the high-priority items are sorted.

5) A Firefox extension is planned, but is lower priority right now. Any volunteers who wanted to write an open source extension would be welcome!

6) You are probably getting a 3 because you are forgetting the "agent" parameter, if everything else is correct. We do need example, though, thanks!

7) Who wants to clutter the UI? :P

We'd love some help, and would be glad to recommend you! Please contact me at stavros at historious if you'd like. Also, thank you for the Mozilla link, I wasn't aware of that and it is very useful.

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by akkartik »

edanm wrote: post #39
erikpukinskis wrote: post #37

I signed up, but didn't install the Chrome extension. I think you need to be a lot clearer about what exactly is going on. For example, if I install the Chrome extension, and then visit my banking site, are you indexing my bank statements? Do you only index pages we click Historify on? The answer to that question ought to be in the privacy policy. You're asking us to install an extension and give you access to EVERYT…

I didn't think about the "indexing everything" from what they said. But now that you mention it, it does sound like a great app. You could have an extension that indexes everything the user goes to. The trick would be making it usable; I almost never use the "history" in my browser, because it tends to never find what I'm looking for. But if you try and solve it in a centralized way, you could do several interesting…

I've been using the scrapbook firefox extension with an extension atop it called autosave. http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/addons.php

The drawback: it saves your history to local disk, and the search can get arbitrarily slow over time. I archive my history every fortnight. For older history I use grep.

It isn't something for normals, but I basically have every page I've ever browsed to since Aug '06.

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by akkartik »

primemod3 wrote: post #61
edanm wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't think about the "indexing everything" from what they said. But now that you mention it, it does sound like a great app. You could have an extension that indexes everything the user goes to. The trick would be making it usable; I almost never use the "history" in my browser, because it tends to never find what I'm looking for. But if you try and solve it in a centralized way, you could do several interesting…

I created a Firefox Addon and website for it last year that did everything you just wrote about, but I've since closed the project down. Let me know if you or anyone is interested in resurrecting it.

I'd like to hear more. Is it open source?

Re: I created a bookmarking service you can love.

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Post by StavrosK »

Entlin wrote: post #56

Great idea. I assume you currently aren't saving embedded resources like audio files or flash movies? It would be even more valuable to a lot of people if you did.

Nope, we don't... Those aren't very searchable, though, or we would. PDFs are a bigger priority, but they we still need to have a way to extract text from them...
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