It's creative approach to content monetization that solves some of the problems associated with ads, such as visual clutter. But mining is a computationally intensive process. So, in a world where this became commonplace, I can't see how you could have more than a few websites running on the client, contending for CPU power, without the end-user experience ending up being severely affected - and the revenue that content makers end up getting out of this as well.
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#62I think this is a really great idea! I'd rather have sites do this then bombard me with 10000 banners. Sure it increases my CPU load but I'd argue it reduces my cognitive load!
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#63Can this run in the background without affecting the user? Eg: the UI lagging, laptop fans turning to max, etc.
There's throttling settings.
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#64Wondering if it's possible to use GPU instead of/in addition to CPU and what would be the impact on performance of site.
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#65I see this as an excellent way to monetize views and fairly good tradeoff.
The issue I see with it, mobile (I tried) is around 10x less. So while it works for desktop, for mobile it would be challenging to use this, on top of draining battery etc.
However, this is probably one of the rare unique ideas how to monetize users presence on the site, and as such I welcome it and look forward to see how it will develop.
In Chrome I didn't notice that tab being out of focus decreases load, so it would work for as long as the site is open.
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#66I run the demo miner on the coinhive landing page for about 1 minute and chose 1 thread (my laptop has 4 threads). I then noticed that the 100% cpu load kept rotating between the 4 threads that my cpu has. Is this a common behavior in cpu mining (because of cpu pipelining) or is this a feature that the developer implemented? How does this affect the cpu performance and general work load? Is it possible to edit the sc…
It's common behavior of most operating systems, tasks are not kept scheduled on the same CPU (unless configured).
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that there should be some sort of notification but other than that, I actually find this idea quite sympathetic. If you read my site, you can pay me by mining for me. It requires no extra effort on your part -- no credit card or micropayment login etc., and the longer you spend on my site, the more you pay. The exchange of value seems more clear cut that ads.
2-5 cents per 24 hours of a user being on your site seems like a bad tradeoff for the downsides.
With US electricity prices.
German electricity prices are north of 40¢/kWh. This is significantly more expensive.
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#68This idea has been tried before ( https://hashcash.io/ ). Question for the developers: 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero? 2. What are you going to do if and when people develop counter strategies to bypass having to do the work?
> 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero?
I've never heard of either service, so I checked out both. One big difference between the two is that I knew pretty quickly what Coinhive was and how to use it, but I could never figure out what the heck HashCash does. I suspect if I clicked on one of their many "buy access to the API" links I may get more info, but that's not very cool.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
2-5 cents per 24 hours of a user being on your site seems like a bad tradeoff for the downsides.
With US electricity prices. German electricity prices are north of 40¢/kWh. This is significantly more expensive.
I calculated the site owners profit, not the cost to the user.
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#70If this is not clearly opt-in I wish those responsible for using it on their site a slow and painful death. Performance and bloat in browsers are a huge problem and having this constantly running in the background (without consent) is an absolute nightmare.
I agree that there should be some sort of notification but other than that, I actually find this idea quite sympathetic. If you read my site, you can pay me by mining for me. It requires no extra effort on your part -- no credit card or micropayment login etc., and the longer you spend on my site, the more you pay. The exchange of value seems more clear cut that ads.
Surely it's horrendously inefficient? That means my costs are much higher than the benefit you get from me, and a lot of energy is wasted.