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Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by wiz21c »

jasonmaydie wrote: post #11
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

The same power that has kept the world peace for the last 50 years? How is that a bad thing?

Remember peace is most probably a byproduct of total US hegemony. Russia and China have been very peaceful last 30 years and they were not dominated. So I wouldn't attribute the peace of the world to the "invisible US hand"...

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by raprp »

jasonmaydie wrote: post #11
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

The same power that has kept the world peace for the last 50 years? How is that a bad thing?

> world peace for the last 50 years

By 'world' you mean Mars, right?

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by saiya-jin »

meri_dian wrote: post #10
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

>"In order to project power" You mean in order to safeguard the global peace. Peaceful nations around the world depend on US support to ensure their defense from hostile nations like Russia

I presume you are joking, right? If we call Russia hostile (which is a fair description), then how would you call US? Super-aggressive war-mongering evil overlord empire?

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by meri_dian »

zimpenfish wrote: post #19
meri_dian wrote: post #14

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When was the last time the US invaded a "neighboring" country?

Panama (1989) was an invasion with troops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Pana...

Yes, almost 30 years ago the US invaded Panama to depose a dictator who had turned Panama into an international money laundering and drug smuggling center.

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by breitling »

jasonmaydie wrote: post #11
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

The same power that has kept the world peace for the last 50 years? How is that a bad thing?

Ask the orphans of Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria how peaceful the U.S.is

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by mmjaa »

taf2 wrote: post #6
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

True they just invade their neighboring countries and say the people living in those places wanted them to help

Whereas the USA just invades [wherever] and says "its because you're not democratic/have too many terrorists/whatever".

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by mmjaa »

jasonmaydie wrote: post #11
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

The same power that has kept the world peace for the last 50 years? How is that a bad thing?

In fact, a larger majority of the world consider that the USA is the very power that has kept the world at war for the last 80 years .. and they're kind of right.

Re: Russian researchers expose U.S. spying program (2015)

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Post by mmjaa »

meri_dian wrote: post #10
mmjaa wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the fact that the US is engaged in open warfare around the world has a lot to do with it. Russia has its problems - but it hasn't deployed $Trillions of military assets around the world in order to project power, like the USA has. That has definitely got to count for something.

>"In order to project power" You mean in order to safeguard the global peace. Peaceful nations around the world depend on US support to ensure their defense from hostile nations like Russia

This is very incorrect. The USA is a bully - most of the nations wanting "USA protection" are really just asking to not be bullied.
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