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How Eve Players Pulled Off the Biggest Betrayal in Its History

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Re: How Eve Players Pulled Off the Biggest Betrayal in Its History

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

mm4 wrote: post #3

maybe the top 1%is having meta fun, but from what I seen the rest might as well be playing Excell spreadsheets

Depends. The top 1% are playing political games, beyond even spreadsheets. A percentage finds the logistics part fun, handling excel sheets and resources and production, either for their own gains or that of their corporation or alliance. Another percentage goes for the pvp, dealing with control of their spaceship, tactics, the meta of their ship and equipment vs that of their opponents.

There's a lot to this game and it's not just spreadsheets, that's only a percentage of the game.

Re: How Eve Players Pulled Off the Biggest Betrayal in Its History

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Post by kensai »

I really like these Eve stories that show off the worse of humanity! They portray a reality where there are relatively few consequences for the human, so huge risks might be undertaken. If you die, your avatar has simply died. OK, you might have invested literally months-years into forming it, but still it's not the physical unique you.

You can always create a new sock puppet to rule the world.

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Post by busterarm »

kensai wrote: post #14

I really like these Eve stories that show off the worse of humanity! They portray a reality where there are relatively few consequences for the human, so huge risks might be undertaken. If you die, your avatar has simply died. OK, you might have invested literally months-years into forming it, but still it's not the physical unique you. You can always create a new sock puppet to rule the world.

I liken it more to playing a game like Diplomacy.

It's a sandbox that gives you a safe place to RP some really dastardly, evil shit. If everyone has a level head, you can go and enjoy a beer together afterwards and start over.

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Post by lagadu »

torgoguys wrote: post #10

I've never played EVE but have read a bit here and there about it, and while I have no interest in playing, the epic stories that come out of it fascinate me. Is there a good place to go to find more?

There's an excellent book that covers some of the larger conflicts between ~2004 and 2009 called Empires of Eve[0]. As someone who was intimately involved with nearly everything the book describes, I recommend it.

[0] http://empiresofeve.com/

Re: How Eve Players Pulled Off the Biggest Betrayal in Its History

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Post by lagadu »

Lorin wrote: post #16
lagadu wrote: post #13

This isn't the biggest by any stretch of the imagination.

The citadel is the biggest player owned object in the Eve universe, right? Maybe that's what they meant by biggest.

It is but it's value with fittings is only ~300 billion isk (the eve currency) which isn't that much when we're talking isk at the alliance level.

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Post by mattmanser »

busterarm wrote: post #8
thisacctforreal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Edit: mildly off-topic, hopefully fine since GP is grey) From what I understand Eve takes a lot of real-time investment and dedication to succeed. After you get far you have to maintain the relationships you built with people, and the responsibilities you share with them. Tribal Wars (unfortunately now pay to win) and Puzzle Pirates are two games I've played that share that aspect, though both have no where near the…

I played EVE for the better part of about 10 years. Been to Fanfest, met Mittens (and Vile Rat, RIP :() and all that. I owe my closest friendships and even my career to EVE. I'll expand on this in a bit. While I did spend a few years floundering around in the game like most players do, I was lucky enough to get close to the major political action early on when the first alliance I was a part of, ISS, collapsed. The t…

The big trouble with eve is the time/reward factor.

Ultimately you can spend a whole night trying to find fights in Eve and get 2 or 3 fights that last 20 seconds.

Or you can play 10 matches of overwatch or CS:Go or DOTA that last 30 minutes in the same time.

It still doesn't have a decent competitor though, elite dangerous is rubbish, still waiting on Star Citizen.

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