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Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Cygwin cannot run Linux executables. Cygwin .exe's are specifically compiled for Windows.

Cygwin is essentially a distribution, so like any distribution their packages are recompiled for that specific distribution and available in their repo. It's not too often you download a random binary for Linux and run it, but that case I concede.

While I think cygwin has a fairly poor ux I don't mean to be dismissive of the undertaking.

On the flip side the concept of " curl http://random_unknown_thing.sh| sudo sh" has become increasingly normal and unsettling

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cygwin cannot run Linux executables. Cygwin .exe's are specifically compiled for Windows.

Cygwin is essentially a distribution, so like any distribution their packages are recompiled for that specific distribution and available in their repo. It's not too often you download a random binary for Linux and run it, but that case I concede.

Very often; every ruby/node/etc library that has at least one dependency that needs compilation ("native-extensions") can now run on Windows 10 without issues.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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This post was interesting in a morbid way but you can count the Linux nerds that want leave the open world of Linux for Microsoft very easily. They all work at Microsoft. Microsoft is losing on mobile, desktop, servers, and IoT. Their entire ecosystem is a technological deadend. If you're a Linux Nerd, you should probably keep using Linux if you care about having a good career going forward.

I guess you didn't get the memo on Azure being highly successful.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/microsoft-azure-growing-fast...

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Also, for anyone with a Windows 10 (Anniversary Edition or above) machine that wants to try this, try the quick PowerShell script I wrote some time back that sets this up for you: https://carlosonunez.wordpress.com/2016/12/01/enable-linux-o...

Also, note that WSL can be disabled via Group Policy, and it is possible that your sysadmins may have done so.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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TBH I dug out my Surface Pro when Jess started talking up WSL... Finally got Windows Insider Preview going so that I could try it out for myself.

I spend most of my days in a text editor and a terminal, and macOS has been making even that painful sometimes. Linux was my desktop for ages before I switched to mac ~7 years ago, so it'll be nice to see what it can do now.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

#57
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How healthy is the desktop market outside of the corporate environment? Consumers seem largely content with phones and tablets.

Pretty much, even as a developer, I feel the desktop paradigm is less and less important each year since I mostly only use a web browser and a terminal.

You're one particular kind of developer. There are others.

For example, my usual "working set" right now includes:

Araxis Merge, Calculator (the Windows 10 version with the new programmer features), Dynalist, Evernote, FlashDevelop (don't laugh), IntelliJ IDEA, TraceView Plus, Notepad++, Office 365, Process Hacker, SecureCRT, Slack, SmartGit, Visual Studio, VMware Workstation, VS Code, XVI32.

And less frequently:

API Monitor, Dependency Walker, Spy++, Hexinator, PaintShop Pro, IDA Pro.

Also utilities like 3DxWare, 7-Zip, AquaSnap, AutoHotkey, Brother scanner utility, Eye-One Match (so my monitors are calibrated the same), Everything (the search utility), GraphicsMagick, JKLmouse (keyboard mouse control), Macrium Reflect, FolderSizes, Pandoc, ZoomIn/Zoom+, and the usual browsers and stuff. WSL too.

Along with more personal tools like Foobar2000, Google Earth, Moneydance, Musicnotes (sheet music player), Total Recorder, Transcribe! (music transcription and pitch shifting), TurboTax, VLC.

I'm not saying my set of tools is typical either, of course! Just that for some of us the desktop is alive and well, both for business and personal use. I have no idea how I would replace most of these tools with a terminal and a web browser, other than the ones like Dynalist and Slack.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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This post was interesting in a morbid way but you can count the Linux nerds that want leave the open world of Linux for Microsoft very easily. They all work at Microsoft. Microsoft is losing on mobile, desktop, servers, and IoT. Their entire ecosystem is a technological deadend. If you're a Linux Nerd, you should probably keep using Linux if you care about having a good career going forward.

Linux still sucks shit on the Desktop. I try it every year, and every year it sucks very slightly less. It goes beyond drivers and application compatibility, Linux distros are ugly and the people making them have no taste. The Desktop/Laptop market is not nearly as important as it used to be, but within that space, Microsoft's dominance is about as strong as ever. Apple might have been able to take a dent out of it i…

Been using Linux as my primary desktop for 17 years now. From ancient Redhat, through Mandrake, SuSE, Ubuntu, now linux mint. Linux mint on my 7 year old laptop (very high end for its day, still no slouch: 16GB ram, updated to SSD, and NVidia mobile graphics) is a more pleasant user experience for me than the corporate Macbook pro.

Everything I need works. My windows environment is an old installation of windows 7 on VirtualBox that I boot up about once every 2 months to get updates, then shut down again. That VM has cygwin, which I'd been using on Windows for a long time when I used it.

Everyone will have their own preferences, and I accept that. Claiming that "linux desktop sucks" and has for a long time, doesn't quite meet the reality of my daily (corporate) life. I am one data point, but certainly not the only one.

If I were, then distros like linux mint wouldn't exist. Nor any of the other desktop/user centric ones for that matter. But they do exist, and appear to be thriving.

As I said, preferences are personal. Linux desktop is quite productive for me.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Author should check out this script for an even more minimal setup :) https://gist.github.com/alirobe/7f3b34ad89a159e6daa1

That gist is full of insecure shit.

Hi! Your comment is very vague and damning considering it contains no specifics.

The gist is served over https so that's secure. It's well documented so it's not really doing anything unintended so there's no problems there. It requires admin privileges, but so would similar changes in other operating systems.

How specifically is the gist full of insecure shit?

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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post #2

This post was interesting in a morbid way but you can count the Linux nerds that want leave the open world of Linux for Microsoft very easily. They all work at Microsoft. Microsoft is losing on mobile, desktop, servers, and IoT. Their entire ecosystem is a technological deadend. If you're a Linux Nerd, you should probably keep using Linux if you care about having a good career going forward.

Linux still sucks shit on the Desktop. I try it every year, and every year it sucks very slightly less. It goes beyond drivers and application compatibility, Linux distros are ugly and the people making them have no taste. The Desktop/Laptop market is not nearly as important as it used to be, but within that space, Microsoft's dominance is about as strong as ever. Apple might have been able to take a dent out of it i…

"Linux still sucks shit on the Desktop. I try it every year,"

No, I don't think you do try it (Linux) - you simply shout stuff ... because ... reasons ...

I suspect that you ... read your history ... are a clever person but slightly biased against FOSS.

If you really have snags about Linux then that is fine. Your employer should always come first.

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