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EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by microcolonel »

aey wrote: post #4

Donate to the eff. They will send you an awesome hoodie.

I'm glad they picked up this approach, I think they got it from the NRA. NRA's been doing donor merchandise and services quite well for a long time, they even have a wine delivery service.

I encourage anyone operating a non-profit to consider setting up programmes like this; you'll get more visibility (from people virtue-signalling their donation), and it will attract new revenue from sociopaths.

Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by meri_dian »

If they can search your bags without a warrant at the border, why can't they search your phone or laptop?

Edit: Contraband can be both physical and digital. If the government can conduct searches for physical contraband then searches for digital contraband in certain circumstances like border crossings seems reasonable.

Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by toomuchtodo »

microcolonel wrote: post #5
aey wrote: post #4

Donate to the eff. They will send you an awesome hoodie.

I'm glad they picked up this approach, I think they got it from the NRA. NRA's been doing donor merchandise and services quite well for a long time, they even have a wine delivery service. I encourage anyone operating a non-profit to consider setting up programmes like this; you'll get more visibility (from people virtue-signalling their donation), and it will attract new revenue from sociopaths.

> and it will attract new revenue from sociopaths.

Can't I just like a hoodie?

Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by __david__ »

meri_dian wrote: post #6

If they can search your bags without a warrant at the border, why can't they search your phone or laptop? Edit: Contraband can be both physical and digital. If the government can conduct searches for physical contraband then searches for digital contraband in certain circumstances like border crossings seems reasonable.

Because that's presumably to prevent you from importing physical contraband into the country. Checking your internet connected device for contraband makes zero sense.

Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by [deleted] »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7
microcolonel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad they picked up this approach, I think they got it from the NRA. NRA's been doing donor merchandise and services quite well for a long time, they even have a wine delivery service. I encourage anyone operating a non-profit to consider setting up programmes like this; you'll get more visibility (from people virtue-signalling their donation), and it will attract new revenue from sociopaths.

> and it will attract new revenue from sociopaths. Can't I just like a hoodie?

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Re: EFF, ACLU Sue Over Warrantless Phone, Laptop Searches at U.S. Border

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Post by rando0o0o0o0o »

__david__ wrote: post #8
meri_dian wrote: post #6

If they can search your bags without a warrant at the border, why can't they search your phone or laptop? Edit: Contraband can be both physical and digital. If the government can conduct searches for physical contraband then searches for digital contraband in certain circumstances like border crossings seems reasonable.

Because that's presumably to prevent you from importing physical contraband into the country. Checking your internet connected device for contraband makes zero sense.

Could they make the argument that they're checking for malicious software/viruses/other bad stuff that could be a threat to Americans?
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