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Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by makk »

mstade wrote: post #70

I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but: can you please enable me to buy a new license for 4.0 even though it may not even be on the road map yet? Or switch to / enable a subscriber model which is paid yearly and gives access to all upgrades? I rely so much on sublime for my day to day work and I fear the $80 or whatever I paid for it whenever ago is too cheap for the amount of value I'm getting out of it, and…

Or keep the current model as is and add an optional recurring donation somewhere.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by jeffbax »

khamisiyah wrote: post #156
lopatin wrote: post #133

Still the gold standard as far as I'm concerned. It seems to be the only editor that focuses on my happiness by providing a flawless text editing experience. It feels like using a modern iPhone compared to a 2005 Android phone (and yes, the Android phone was probably more extensible).

A small correction: the first Android phone was released in 2008.

I think they were meant to release earlier, but had to "go back to the drawing board", so to speak https://www.technobuffalo.com/2011/10/27/android-before-and-...

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by jeffbax »

anderber wrote: post #309
lopatin wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

touché. Maybe OS X vs Ubuntu Desktop is a better comparison. (Can you tell I like Apple products?)

This is an interesting comparison. Curious as what you think makes OS X better. From what I understand Ubuntu is faster, uses less resources and is much more extensible. All things know to be Sublime-like.

*macOS ;)

For me, the UI paradigms are certainly more cohesive… but most importantly I don't think any platform has the quality software that OS X has when it comes to attention to detail/usability. Like many with Sublime, I'm happy to pay for other commercial software if its notably better than the free options.

Ubuntu is probably leaner, but in an age of i7s and 16GB ram not sure that matters as much. OS X is aggressive at using what you can throw at it, which generally has made things feel faster than me, but I came from Windows in 2004.

It generally strikes the balance of what I deem the finest commercial software, with a very great open source ecosystem 90% as good as Linux. Makes for a very good dev environment, and the hardware is unbeatable (which is made possible by the software integration)

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by musage »

lvoudour wrote: post #136

Sublime is probably the first GUI text editor that left me satisfied. Everything else over the years was either non-portable, slow or lacking features. After two months of use I just had to buy it, it's worth the price. - It's fast and responsive, can handle large files and personally I've never seen it leaking memory or crashing - Love the goto anything and command palette, brilliant - Text editing is great and can…

Have you ever seen UltraEdit? I dare you to try the trial, actually go through the exquisite configuration dialogs to make it yours, and then to ever look back :)

This isn't as a knock on ST, which I also like, and might even sometimes prefer for pure writing or temporary notes. But it doesn't even have printing out of the box, come on. For me that's too modern.. plugins are nice, but I guess I prefer UE to ST like I preferred old Opera to Firefox.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by ehsankia »

kylebebak wrote: post #328

Sublime Text is among the best pieces of software I've used. I bought the license a couple of years ago, and would gladly pay the same amount again. I love its core functionality: speed and stability, search, command palette, file navigation, Goto. I've used a number of editors over the years, and none have felt as fundamentally sound as Sublime Text. The best feature of all is the Python plugin API. Sublime lacks so…

Sublime just makes editing fun for me. Especially with the ctrl+d multi-selection.

When it comes to editors, there's definitely a big spectrum of how much it does vs how lightweight/simple it is, and I think Sublime Text, for a majority of my usecases at least, is in the sweet spot.

Don't get me wrong, full fledged IDEs are useful sometimes too, but every time I go to use them, I always spend half my time searching and fighting the program instead of being productive. That's what I mean by Sublime making programming fun. Things don't get in your way and everything is very clean. Sure it may do less, but at least it doesn't drown you in features you don't use either.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by Zelizz »

anderber wrote: post #309
lopatin wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

touché. Maybe OS X vs Ubuntu Desktop is a better comparison. (Can you tell I like Apple products?)

This is an interesting comparison. Curious as what you think makes OS X better. From what I understand Ubuntu is faster, uses less resources and is much more extensible. All things know to be Sublime-like.

In my opinion, Linux desktop environments have historically been missing small but important details, like proper escape angles in menus, and comprehensive / nicely organized settings pages, adding friction to the user experience. My more recent experience with Debian and Ubuntu has been much better though.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by eggpy »

amelius wrote: post #347
coldtea wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not flaming, I genuinely want to know. I've tried Gedit, Atom, VS Code, Notepad++ and I fail to see what Sublime offers over those to justify the price. It's better than Gedit in every way, it's way faster and more lightweight than Atom and VS Code, and it has a far better plugin ecosystem and functionality than Notepad++. I'd pay triple the price.

> it's way faster and more lightweight Now you've got me wondering why editor speed is actually a thing.

Not only does the editor need to track project folders and open files, even something seemingly simple like syntax highlighting can be surprisingly complex[0]. The editor needs to be able to read your inputs (mouse and keyboard) and represent those changes onscreen just like every other piece of software. It needs to repaint the screen with your changes and, depending on the complexity of the editor, load and implement a host of features (auto-complete? bracket matching? code indentation? code standards a la pep8? updates to source control?), with every single keypress and ideally in a matter of milliseconds. All of that takes memory and different editors make different sacrifices.

Of course the extent to which this happens is the whole reason there are different editors. If all you want to do is write text with zero features, then speed isn't an issue at all and you can just write directly in your terminal to a single file with pico or something.

[0] https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2017/02/08/syntax-highli...

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by pen2l »

bitexploder wrote: post #284
lvoudour wrote: post #136

Sublime is probably the first GUI text editor that left me satisfied. Everything else over the years was either non-portable, slow or lacking features. After two months of use I just had to buy it, it's worth the price. - It's fast and responsive, can handle large files and personally I've never seen it leaking memory or crashing - Love the goto anything and command palette, brilliant - Text editing is great and can…

First: I love ST. It is an amazing software that runs just as good on Mac/Linux/Win. In a pinch I will download and use it and never complain. Python extensibility is also great, since Python is the language I do best. That said, and I hate to be this guy (not really), but... Emacs? * Performance: Acceptable on modern day * Goto Anything: Helm/Projectile, command palette = M-x * Text Editing: It is what emacs does be…

Whereas Sublime "just works", emacs doesn't.

But when you're on Windows, boy you have to do a LOT to get it to just work. I tried it (and spacemacs, as I'm quite familiar with vim) last month for doing some python work on Windows... I just gave up after 2 days.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by flatline »

komali2 wrote: post #432
bitexploder wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First: I love ST. It is an amazing software that runs just as good on Mac/Linux/Win. In a pinch I will download and use it and never complain. Python extensibility is also great, since Python is the language I do best. That said, and I hate to be this guy (not really), but... Emacs? * Performance: Acceptable on modern day * Goto Anything: Helm/Projectile, command palette = M-x * Text Editing: It is what emacs does be…

Gonna take advantage of having an emacs wizard around - I love vscode, but agreed, it's bog-slow sometimes, especially when I run in ubuntu. I'm looking around at emacs and I like what I'm seeing, but something that perhaps seems silly is still a bit of a turn off for me - it's pretty effing ugly. I don't mean in the theme sense, I mean in all the stuff cluttering the codepanes. In VScode I usually ctrl+k z for "zen…

Just get emacs prelude and configure it to use helm everywhere. It is so close to my previous custom emacs setup that I just install prelude now on a new system and run with it.
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