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Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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I think that regardless of your social or political stance of anything regarding males, females, workplaces, salaries, or sexism, more data is always nice to have. Now I'm going to figure out how to twist this into fitting my own personal world view and then make a news article about it.

> Now I'm going to figure out how to twist this into fitting my own personal world view and then make a news article about it.

Not cynical enough. 5/10

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programmers and computer operators did, but I can't find it in the page. "Computer" used to be a person crunching numbers using slide rules and mechanical calculators and it was an overwhelmingly female profession. When machines appeared, the operators were predominantly the same personnel that were doing it by hand earlier.

Of the software related occupations it lists, they don't seem to go before the 1970's. This is much too late to see that trend.

They have "Software Developers, Applications and Systems Software" and "Computer Programmers." The latter goes back to 1970. However, I'm really not sure if there's supposed to be a difference between the two.

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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post #18

Interesting. One of the theories I've heard regarding a possible decline in educational quality in the US was that in the 50s, the most qualified women became educators due to a lack of other jobs, while today they become CEOs, etc. On the surface this data seems to contradict that.

I wonder how much of if the gender disparity in education is pure preconceived notions. "All my teachers were women", so women are more 'teacherly' and more likely to be hired.

More recent fears over men in proximity to kids probably reinforces this.

I've certainly heard the theory you suggest and it does seem to make sense. Perhaps the data doesn't show that because as smart women have 'left' teaching they've been backfilled by the additional women joining the workforce that didn't used to be there?

Interesting questions around the massively skewed jobs.

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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post #13

Nothing that went from female to male?

Programmers and computer operators did, but I can't find it in the page. "Computer" used to be a person crunching numbers using slide rules and mechanical calculators and it was an overwhelmingly female profession. When machines appeared, the operators were predominantly the same personnel that were doing it by hand earlier.

"Computer Programmers" is there but looks like it has always been dominated by men.

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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post #13

Nothing that went from female to male?

Programmers and computer operators did, but I can't find it in the page. "Computer" used to be a person crunching numbers using slide rules and mechanical calculators and it was an overwhelmingly female profession. When machines appeared, the operators were predominantly the same personnel that were doing it by hand earlier.

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Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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Many of those shifts from a majority male workforce to a majority female workforce seem to happen quickly (or even abruptly) at around the 1960s/1970s.

I'm not well versed in American history. Did anything significant happen then to cause this, or is it just an interesting anomaly?

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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Many of those shifts from a majority male workforce to a majority female workforce seem to happen quickly (or even abruptly) at around the 1960s/1970s. I'm not well versed in American history. Did anything significant happen then to cause this, or is it just an interesting anomaly?

More women entered the workforce at that time, and households with more than one breadwinner became more common due to wage stagnation in the 70s, but I imagine there's more at play than just that.

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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Many of those shifts from a majority male workforce to a majority female workforce seem to happen quickly (or even abruptly) at around the 1960s/1970s. I'm not well versed in American history. Did anything significant happen then to cause this, or is it just an interesting anomaly?

“The Pill” (widely available birth control.)

Re: Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950

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Many of those shifts from a majority male workforce to a majority female workforce seem to happen quickly (or even abruptly) at around the 1960s/1970s. I'm not well versed in American history. Did anything significant happen then to cause this, or is it just an interesting anomaly?

There are a variety of possible contributing factors, primarily that it was the era of "women's lib", or in full "women's liberation". IOW, "a woman's place is in the home, preferably barefoot and pregnant" began to go out the window. Along with that was the civil rights era, meaning at the least the idea of equality for all.

In summary, the U. S. began, even if just a little bit, to pull its head out of its ass with respect to equality and rights.

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