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Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by noir_lord »

lfowles wrote: post #93
mattl wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a real danger I think in relying on a proprietary software program for something so key as text editing. For many developers, their editor will be with them for their whole career. Proprietary software has a tendency to not stick around. I hope to see Sublime eventually released under a free software license. I'd donate to that project.

I'm not sure I've seen a text editor that was revolutionary enough that I would consider myself crippled if it didn't stick around.

Editor no, IDE yes.

I'd be able to function without intellij ultimate but it would be incredibly painful and I'd permanently be slower.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by donatj »

I use Sublime mostly for large files and it's awesomly quick and useful search. I've switched to VSCode for most other tasks however.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by Koshkin »

gapo wrote: post #15

I think Sublime is a great editor. I enjoy a lot of the nice UI based workflows Sublime provides - but always felt that mastering VIM / emacs would provide me a far better pay out. Does any body else agree ?

Sublime, vim and emacs are three different animals. It does pay to know the basics of the latter two, especially if you expect to have to edit files from the console and/or find yourself using a random UNIX environment (which most likely will not have Sublime installed on it).

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by dotancohen »

mattl wrote: post #71
tuananh wrote: post #20

$80 for something we make a living on is very reasonable.

There's a real danger I think in relying on a proprietary software program for something so key as text editing. For many developers, their editor will be with them for their whole career. Proprietary software has a tendency to not stick around. I hope to see Sublime eventually released under a free software license. I'd donate to that project.

I used to think that, until I discovered the IDEA suite (PyCharm, PHPStorm, etc). And many devs use Windows as well. The OS is no less important than the text editor.

I still use VIM often enough to stay proficient with it, mostly via SSH, but I'll happily use the closed source IDEA editors when they are available.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by adtac »

rootlocus wrote: post #63
Nvorzula wrote: post #60

I took a dive away from Sublime Text over to Atom a few years ago because I was starting up some contract work, didn't want to pay for a copy, and didn't want to continue doing the hokey thing of using a friend's license for work purposes. So I got use to Atom just fine, plus the UI is nice. I mean, Atom is nice. The package management is all there and frequent updates are great, but...I don't write JS/HTML/CSS/PHP.…

Did you just write 3 paragraphs of Atom review on the sublime 3.0 release announcement?

What's wrong with that? Atom aims to compete with Sublime and there's nothing wrong with a review comparing the two.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by e_proxus »

theHazardMan wrote: post #27
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #24

Bar none, my favorite editor. I try to use Vim only sometimes to make sure I keep those commands in shape, but Sublime remains for hardcore work. It breaks my heart that it's closed source. I do wonder sometimes how much the app makes and/or how much someone would have to pay the developer to open source it.

There is "VIntage Mode" for ST, but unfortunately it's not entirely accurate and also doesn't support some commands. VSCode's VIM plugin is more complete.

There's also the new Sublime Six which is very promising: http://www.sublimesix.com

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by jskinner »

danielvf wrote: post #79
joncalhoun wrote: post #68

Kudos to the ST team for never trying to patent or sue random companies for using the multi-select feature. That feature alone has helped improve so many editors.

Note that that feature was in TextMate, which was Sublime's inspiration.

No, it wasn't. I believe TextMate had a feature where you could edit multiple lines at once, but it was part of a column selection mode, it certainly wasn't free form multiple selections.

Multiple Selections were one of the earliest core features built for Sublime Text, and weren't inspired from other software. I don't think TextMate existed when I implemented this.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by danso »

mstade wrote: post #70

I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but: can you please enable me to buy a new license for 4.0 even though it may not even be on the road map yet? Or switch to / enable a subscriber model which is paid yearly and gives access to all upgrades? I rely so much on sublime for my day to day work and I fear the $80 or whatever I paid for it whenever ago is too cheap for the amount of value I'm getting out of it, and…

I concur with this. I'm appreciative of Atom -- and recommend it to folks who aren't professional programmers and can't imagine paying for a text editor -- and I've heard similar great things about VS Code, but ST and its ecosystem has just been so dependable for me. It was inconvenient to switch over from TextMate to ST initially, but ended up being a great move overall. I haven't yet seen anything on the horizon that would seem like the next phase from ST for me.

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by davidu »

xs wrote: post #109

Is there an option to print yet?

Not easy for an editor to support. There are much better tools available to print code or reflow plaintext into a .ps or .pdf.

Enscript[1] is my (the?) preferred way and a plugin would be a fine tay to achieve this. Will format code in almost any way you could ever imagine.

1: https://www.gnu.org/software/enscript/

Re: Sublime Text 3.0

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Post by criddell »

Nvorzula wrote: post #60

I took a dive away from Sublime Text over to Atom a few years ago because I was starting up some contract work, didn't want to pay for a copy, and didn't want to continue doing the hokey thing of using a friend's license for work purposes. So I got use to Atom just fine, plus the UI is nice. I mean, Atom is nice. The package management is all there and frequent updates are great, but...I don't write JS/HTML/CSS/PHP.…

It's discouraging to me that a tool that's excellent, actively developed, and inexpensive still can't get support from professional developers like yourself.
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