Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by javajocky » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 10:59 PM UTC

Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation
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Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by annonwhatever » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:19 AM UTC

Java EE going the way of the Dodo

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by andreasgonewild » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:30 AM UTC

annonwhatever wrote: post #2

Java EE going the way of the Dodo

, and not a second too early. Definitely cause for celebration!

Edit: Sore toes, anyone? Too invested to see clearly? I did enough EE-consulting to have an opinion; it's over-engineered, marketing-driven bullshit; designed to make everything as complicated as possible.

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by csours » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:33 AM UTC

Can someone explain what Java EE really means? I tried to parse the bundle and license the last time this came up, and I didn't really get anywhere.

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by geodel » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:33 AM UTC

Java EE seems drag on Oracle's cloud future. One can see where Oracle would like to focus, at least, through their open source efforts [1].

1. https://github.com/oracle

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by terminado » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:34 AM UTC

woah

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by qwerty_asdf » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:37 AM UTC

csours wrote: post #4

Can someone explain what Java EE really means? I tried to parse the bundle and license the last time this came up, and I didn't really get anywhere.

It means the whole server-side JDK API, including the servlet spec, jsp libs and JDBC SQL framework under the javax.* packages, whether actually distributed as part of the JDK or not. [0,1,2]

[0] http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/api/javax/persistence/packag... / http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/javax/sql/package-s...

[1] https://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/api/javax/servlet/package-s...

[2] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/jsp/index.html

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by UK-AL » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 12:43 AM UTC

Does oracle have a equivalent?

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by camus2 » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 1:13 AM UTC

csours wrote: post #4

Can someone explain what Java EE really means? I tried to parse the bundle and license the last time this came up, and I didn't really get anywhere.

> Can someone explain what Java EE really means? I tried to parse the bundle and license the last time this came up, and I didn't really get anywhere.

It's no different than Web standards between browsers, it's a collection of API specifications describing how web applications should be architectured in Java. Then different libraries can follow the spec. JavaEE also has a reference implementation which used to be done by Sun/Oracle.

The problem with JavaEE is, by being too broad and generic, it is incredibly complex and often fails to solve today's developers problems. I mean who cares about JSF(java server face, a way to describe "HTML GUI widgets" in XML) when most applications use a RESTful architecture? Beans session persistance? ... JEE has a lot of technical debt, the word is definitely appropriate here.

Re: Java EE Is Moving to the Eclipse Foundation

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Post by wener » Wed, Sep 13, 2017, 1:36 AM UTC

Feel sad, don't like things goto Eclipse. Eclipse makes me feel less techs, maybe the bad impression from eclipse, these bad impression last for at least five years, most of time someone get into the trouble is caused by eclipse, feel more worse.