Put it on the internet archive.
It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
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Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#12CTRL + F "Disclaimer: I work at Google" Funny how that never comes up on these threads. I get it you can't discredit your employer. Even at Google.
^ Cynicism at its best.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#13Well, she is easier to defend than Nazis. So, here I go... Freedom of expression, not just free speech the legal concept, should be a societal goal. Google has every right, legally, to delete this stuff. However, in an ideal world, they'd do no such thing and would let people judge based on the merits of the message. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd like to work towards that ideal world. Maybe the solution…
> Maybe the solution is enabling people to realistically host content themselves, on their own property, and just ensuring the ISP is nothing but a dumb pipe?
For what it's worth, this is mildly achievable, but I doubt there's much of a market for it. It's (usually) not hard to convert one's internet connection to some sort of business-class connection, get a static ip, and have port 80/443 unblocked, (I've done it). Mind you, there's costs associated with all that.
Then you have to setup and maintain a web server. Plenty of HN folks can do that on their distro of choice, but it's definitely a technical feat. I bet folks have tried to make a one-click install style thing before. I bet one even exists today, but I couldn't tell you what it is.
Then there's maintenance on said server...
Ultimately, people use 3rd parties because its a significantly lower barrier to entry in monetary cost, time, and complexity.
I won't speak to Google's actions here, but no one has yet proven out your proposed solution. I'd love it if we could.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#14My spidey sense is tingling here. With Assange's exposition of Google as an arm of the US State Department [1] and the US's ever changing alliances with various rebel groups in the middle east, including the Taliban and Al Qaeda [2] [3], it's not a stretch to believe that Google has an agenda beyond monetization in the particular content it hides.
[1] http://www.newsweek.com/assange-google-not-what-it-seems-279...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_...
[3] http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syrian-rebel-g...
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#15Well, she is easier to defend than Nazis. So, here I go... Freedom of expression, not just free speech the legal concept, should be a societal goal. Google has every right, legally, to delete this stuff. However, in an ideal world, they'd do no such thing and would let people judge based on the merits of the message. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd like to work towards that ideal world. Maybe the solution…
Besides being an issue of freedom of expression, couldn't this be construed as a form of damage?
I mean, part of a journalist's trade is to reach out as many people as they possibly can. Taking stuff down goes in the opposite direction to that.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#16Well, she is easier to defend than Nazis. So, here I go... Freedom of expression, not just free speech the legal concept, should be a societal goal. Google has every right, legally, to delete this stuff. However, in an ideal world, they'd do no such thing and would let people judge based on the merits of the message. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd like to work towards that ideal world. Maybe the solution…
How tightly bound we are to just a few large tech companies is... unfortunate.
I would love it if it were easier for the common person to host their own stuff. Between all the concerns involved (security, hardware, demand, etc.) I'm not sure how feasible it is. I've given it a lot of thought, and have slowly unwound my custom tech setups - from domains, to emails, to hardware. Mostly for the "bus" factor. When my dad died, my mom let his computer sit untouched for years. At some point I transferred the files on it to my computer so they wouldn't disappear forever. But still, a decade later, and it's just sitting there. She never bothers to turn it on.
I have a family, and my wife is not technical in the slightest. If I were to be gone tomorrow, there's no way she would have a clue as to what to do. My #1 barometer for everything I use in life is how easy it is for her to use things.
It's interesting to me how temporary and inaccessible our digital lives actually are.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#17Google seems to be doing a very fine job of showing that it is has reached monopoly status for way too many verticals. They're getting way comfortable in their success, and this is exemplified in the certain level of hubris they exemplify in their practices. Google Jigsaw is one such example. I really do hope the DOJ gets serious about the anti-trust implications and takes them to task at some point. I think we're in need of another Bell Systems-esque anti-trust breakup.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#18In a lot of ways this kind of stuff is what we were warned about by many including the FSF. Cloud software you don't control, or which knows a lot about you, can be used to censor you. Always better to self-host and backup/distribute via the cloud as a secondary method. Easier said than done though.
Yeah, lots of people saw this coming light-years away.
People really should stop ignoring the TOS.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#19What are some good alternative email accounts to use? I should really start decreasing my dependence on Google.
Re: It appears my Google account is slated for deletion
#20Well, she is easier to defend than Nazis. So, here I go... Freedom of expression, not just free speech the legal concept, should be a societal goal. Google has every right, legally, to delete this stuff. However, in an ideal world, they'd do no such thing and would let people judge based on the merits of the message. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd like to work towards that ideal world. Maybe the solution…
> That said, if anyone can think of something that I can do to help, I'm all ears.
You already live in this world.
Who cares if Goolge won't host these videos on youtube? I don't understand why this matters. There are millions of other video upload sites, all of which are extremely easy to find and use. There are literally too many open source options for sharing files to count, and many of them are even usable by non-technical folk. Millions of people shared videos online for at least a good decade before youtube became popular.
Maintain a local copy of everything you put on the cloud.