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Post by bodz »

dmitrygr wrote: post #204
bodz wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of this debate is pretty irrelevant since refusal to unlock a phone is reason for police to hold you indefinitely until you unlock it. It's a misconception that locking with a passcode means you've "defeated" the police somehow. Most officers probably won't deal with the hassle, but if the officer is in a particularly bad mood or if they have reason to suspect you actually do have something incriminating, the off…

False. CBP yes. Police no. You do not have for follow their orders except for their safety. They'll have to drag you before a judge to force you to unlock it. And even then it is questionable is providing a password is protected constitutionally. Courts have ruled differently on this.

Not false. Police can ask for your password, and if you do not give it to them, you can be arrested pending a hearing with a judge. The judge can then compel you to give up the passcode (though they probably won't unless there's reasonable suspicion that you're hiding something - but again you're just banking on the judge's mood/feeling at that point), and if you don't, you can be held in prison until you do give it up.

The "questionable constitutionality" of it is irrelevant since in practice until there is a higher ruling on this, if you don't want to go to jail, you must give up your passcode.

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Post by freehunter »

dagw wrote: post #202
freehunter wrote: post #185

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Try finding one with a serial port. And that technology is still in active use in IT networking and embedded devices.

Try finding one with a serial port I just did. Found three or four modern motherboards with serial ports with much effort.

Sorry for some reason I read "laptop". It's much harder to find a modern laptop with a serial port, and a desktop is not very easy to carry into a datacenter.

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Post by dave5104 »

sahaskatta wrote: post #166
theshrike79 wrote: post #108

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Wireless charging will only work if it's everywhere. This new iPhone (and all future models) will make sure it catches on. McDonalds and Starbucks _will_ have Qi charging tables by the end of next year.

Starbucks has had wireless chargers for a long time in most Bay Area stores. However, these are usually PMA chargers -- not Qi. I have never been able to charge my Nexus devices which only have Qi at Starbucks, however my new Galaxy S8 which supports both Qi and PMA work at Starbucks just fine! This does unfortunately mean that new iPhone won't work at Starbucks locations unless they replace the hardware.

In the past 6 months, I've seen all of that hardware disappear. Can't find a Starbucks offering the power mats in the tables anymore (and the circle dongles you would have to plug in).

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Post by euyyn »

drcongo wrote: post #191
Lramseyer wrote: post #90

This may sound like the most ridiculous criticism, but I was really disappointed that the iPhone still uses the lightning charger port and not USB-C. Every other device charges with it including Apple's own laptops. Though seeing how long they take to adopt some features that seem standard to android users (like 4G LTE and wireless charging) in their smartphones, I guess this is to be expected.

I've had a new MacBook Pro for under a year and 3 of the USB-C ports are now super slack and have no click to them at all. I find it a horrible connector.

Mine's fine. Maybe you got a defective one? Worth asking for a warranty fix.

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Post by napsterbr »

jonheller wrote: post #44
Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

Do you often use your phone without looking at it?

Not always, but it's useful some times. Say you are in a meeting / class and want to discreetly check something. Or while driving, in which case you want to deviate as little attention as possible. Ahem, of course those are hypothetical examples.

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Post by quanticle »

Kayou wrote: post #136
Androider wrote: post #51

Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) The best thing about the iPhone 8 is that it might finally make wireless chargers more commonplace, they are extremely convenient as Android users have been trying to tell for years. Here's another one trick Apple might want to pick up on: I own both an iPhone 7 and a Nexus 6P, and the fingerprint sensor being in the middle of the back o…

My problem with wireless charging is that it gets my Nexus 4 crazy hot because of the induction. But that may be my cheapo charger, I dont know.

That was my problem as well. The other problem that I had (which turned out to be a deal breaker) was that in order for the phone to charge, you had to place it just right on the charging pad. Otherwise it would show that it was charging (you'd see the lightning bolt on the battery icon), but the phone wouldn't actually charge. In practice, this meant that wireless charging was actually considerably less convenient than plugging a USB cable into the phone, since you had to check back on the phone after a few minutes to verify that the phone was actually charging.

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Post by egeozcan »

TylerE wrote: post #127
notzorbo3 wrote: post #91

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This probably annoys me more than anything about smartphones. New model of somesuch comes out, and it has a bunch of newer features, but a lot of features I've come to expect are suddenly gone. It was never that way with PCs. A lot of things about phones are unfortunately not like it was with PCs. I'm amazed to say it, but I've come to view IBM and Microsoft as fantastic drivers of open technology during the PC area.

Well, it IS that way with PC's too, it's just been a bit slower. Try finding a modern motherboard with an AGP slot or a real parrallel port.

Why do you need AGP? I'm very curious to know if it still has a use case.

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Post by xur17 »

Kayou wrote: post #136
Androider wrote: post #51

Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) The best thing about the iPhone 8 is that it might finally make wireless chargers more commonplace, they are extremely convenient as Android users have been trying to tell for years. Here's another one trick Apple might want to pick up on: I own both an iPhone 7 and a Nexus 6P, and the fingerprint sensor being in the middle of the back o…

My problem with wireless charging is that it gets my Nexus 4 crazy hot because of the induction. But that may be my cheapo charger, I dont know.

I had the same problem with my Nexus 4 and a nokia qi charger. The battery life got significantly worse in the months after I started using it. I have no way of knowing if that was the cause, but it seemed likely at the time.

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Post by kentiko »

stevewillows wrote: post #175

This is a pretty phone -- but I really wish they'd make a smaller phone around the size of the 5S with the option to change the resolution (e.g. LittleBrother in Cydia). My 5S is slowly dying -- but I can't find a good replacement (new or used) that can be jailbroken. For me its the perfect phone, but I'm an extremely light phone user (email, phone, imessage, Simon Tatham's Net and Galaxy puzzles). I guess I was hopi…

Check out Pushbullet? https://www.pushbullet.com/

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Post by Skunkleton »

bodz wrote: post #176
theshrike79 wrote: post #89

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It learns your face and can work around haircuts, sunglasses etc.

How does it work around sunglasses if Apple also said you have to have your eyes open?

Just a guess: it uses infrared to somehow determine where you are looking, and sunglasses don't block infrared.
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