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Re: iPhone 8

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Post by freehunter »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #157
wlesieutre wrote: post #39

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iPhone 4S was my first and favorite smartphone. Glass front/back with a metal edge. Back when phones were hand-sized they were a lot harder to drop.

Completely agree. It was the most beautiful of all iPhones. It was bound to get shit the next iteration. After all, gotta iterate right? Gotta do something different, "better"...

Interestingly enough, they iterated to something that I think is far uglier than any other model, and then frustratingly have stuck by it for three years, four years by the time they might possibly replace it.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by dagw »

freehunter wrote: post #185
TylerE wrote: post #127

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Well, it IS that way with PC's too, it's just been a bit slower. Try finding a modern motherboard with an AGP slot or a real parrallel port.

Try finding one with a serial port. And that technology is still in active use in IT networking and embedded devices.

Try finding one with a serial port

I just did. Found three or four modern motherboards with serial ports with much effort.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by gallerdude »

Doesn't seem like a huge improvement over the 7 - I guess they're trying to put all the focus on the X, but it'll be curious to see where they go from here.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by dmitrygr »

bodz wrote: post #178
bluthru wrote: post #159

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I guess this can't be repeated enough: press the side button 5 times and it'll require a passcode. You can do this as you're handing it to the officer.

All of this debate is pretty irrelevant since refusal to unlock a phone is reason for police to hold you indefinitely until you unlock it. It's a misconception that locking with a passcode means you've "defeated" the police somehow. Most officers probably won't deal with the hassle, but if the officer is in a particularly bad mood or if they have reason to suspect you actually do have something incriminating, the off…

False. CBP yes. Police no. You do not have for follow their orders except for their safety. They'll have to drag you before a judge to force you to unlock it. And even then it is questionable is providing a password is protected constitutionally. Courts have ruled differently on this.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by ubernostrum »

DanHulton wrote: post #12
Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

A sufficiently motivated and legally-empowered government official will always be able to find a way to unlock your phone. If nothing else, plenty of governments would simply torture you until you gave up the passcode.

Biometric/facial ID/etc. are conveniences for the masses. They're not ever going to stop the secret police, and bringing up that they won't stop the secret police is not a useful objection, since nothing you can do will stop sufficiently-motivated secret police from being able to force you to access something you have access to.

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Post by joe5150 »

jsjohnst wrote: post #46
jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

1) if you have Bluetooth headphones, they just work. Any brand. 2) if you prefer wired headphones, they just work too using the contents of the box your phone came in. Seriously, you act like Apple released a smartphone without a screen. Grow up!

I'm about to buy my third Apple Lighting to 3.5mm adapter since last September, so yes it "works", but I don't have to pretend that this flimsy junk is how it should be.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by Karunamon »

shinratdr wrote: post #200
jsjohnst wrote: post #139

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> I find it remarkably difficult to actually get a pair of AirPods to try. Guess you don't have an Apple Store nearby? That said, if the regular Apple EarPods were as painful as you describe, then you'll hate the AirPods. They are almost identical fit wise.

I don't agree. I found EarPods very painful, and the AirPods were rough for about a day and then my ears got used to them. They look very similar, but something about how their weighted changes the fit.

Thanks, that has restored my faith a bit. There's not an Apple store here within 2 hours drive, so I kinda have to go on word of mouth for now.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by kllrnohj »

Terretta wrote: post #190
chrishynes wrote: post #184

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That all depends on _where_ on the back of the phone. With my Nexus 6P, the fingerprint sensor is located right where my index finger naturally goes while holding the phone. With a correctly located rear fingerprint sensor, it becomes an automatic motion without thinking rather than having to consciously find and press a button.

Except for the 'no hands while locked on the table' part. It's an oh so common use case.

It's OK Apple just obsoleted that use case by requiring your face to be in the camera's recognition zone. No more unlocking it while it's on a table!

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by jedberg »

DigitalJack wrote: post #74
crgt wrote: post #52

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The real question is - who wants wireless charging? This is how they achieve that..

I would like it. It's not a super big deal to me, but I'd like it. In my car. As a part of the holder. Otherwise, meh. In my car I hate dealing with cables.

My 2018 Odyssey minivan has a wireless charging pad option, right where I always keep the phone. Still have to plug it in to use CarPlay though. :(
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