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Re: iPhone 8

#181

I'm disappointed that this doesn't support any of the 600mhz spectrum that is now coming online. This actually provides a fairly strong reason not to upgrade, since anyone buying a phone this year is going to miss out on this functionality next year unless they want to upgrade after only a year.

I don't think Qualcomm/Intel are ready to ship 600mhz chips at scale yet (is probably the issue)? That's what's suggested by a cursory googling

Re: iPhone 8

#182

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I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

Some friends and I have defeated a few other devices with face unlock features. It was the super technical task of finding and printing a photo found on social networking sites, then holding it up to the camera. I wonder if apple has hardened against this.

It uses a depth sensor. And they have trained the neural networks to prevent using 3d printed masks instead of the real face. I guess they are using depth-ir-powered-video instead of still photos.

Re: iPhone 8

#183

This is a pretty phone -- but I really wish they'd make a smaller phone around the size of the 5S with the option to change the resolution (e.g. LittleBrother in Cydia). My 5S is slowly dying -- but I can't find a good replacement (new or used) that can be jailbroken. For me its the perfect phone, but I'm an extremely light phone user (email, phone, imessage, Simon Tatham's Net and Galaxy puzzles). I guess I was hopi…

I'm happily using the iPhone SE. I switched from an iPhone 6 because I like the form factor of the iPhone 5. I too wish that they would update the SE, but in all honesty it is powerful enough with the right camera specs and it is a perfect traveler camera... For now, I'm staying put. I also still love using the headphone jack.

Re: iPhone 8

#184

Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) The best thing about the iPhone 8 is that it might finally make wireless chargers more commonplace, they are extremely convenient as Android users have been trying to tell for years. Here's another one trick Apple might want to pick up on: I own both an iPhone 7 and a Nexus 6P, and the fingerprint sensor being in the middle of the back o…

I thought the fingerprint scanner on the back would be a good feature until I realized 90% of my phone usage involves me pulling it out of my pocket. - On my iPhone, I just pinch it with my thumb on the home button while I pull it out. - On my Pixel, I have to take it out and then unlock it. Also, when the phone is resting on a table, I can just unlock my iPhone by touching the home button. With the Pixel, I have to…

That all depends on _where_ on the back of the phone. With my Nexus 6P, the fingerprint sensor is located right where my index finger naturally goes while holding the phone.

With a correctly located rear fingerprint sensor, it becomes an automatic motion without thinking rather than having to consciously find and press a button.

Re: iPhone 8

#185
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This probably annoys me more than anything about smartphones. New model of somesuch comes out, and it has a bunch of newer features, but a lot of features I've come to expect are suddenly gone. It was never that way with PCs. A lot of things about phones are unfortunately not like it was with PCs. I'm amazed to say it, but I've come to view IBM and Microsoft as fantastic drivers of open technology during the PC area.

Well, it IS that way with PC's too, it's just been a bit slower. Try finding a modern motherboard with an AGP slot or a real parrallel port.

Try finding one with a serial port. And that technology is still in active use in IT networking and embedded devices.

Re: iPhone 8

#186

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The wireless charging is a gimmick. If you have a new iPhone, a new Apple Watch, and AirPods with apparently the proper case, then it could be compelling. I prefer to just have fewer things that need charging. As you point out, it could have been done earlier but I'm guessing they waited because the utility is so small. Whereas Android manufacturers seem to want the most features, the most checks on the list, even if…

I haven't used wireless charging and am neutral about it. Why do you think it's a gimmick?

I've owned one phone with wireless charging and I have no particular need for another one. It'll be handy if it becomes ubiquitous - put the phone on a pad at the coffee shop is more convenient than carrying a cable to plug in to a USB outlet - but a relatively minor thing for me.

I'm often not at my desk at work, so when I am, I want wired so it charges as fast as possible. Additionally, both for during the day and at night, charging with a wire has the big convenience advantage of being able to use the phone while charging it.

Re: iPhone 8

#187

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If you watched the demo, they explained you have to be looking at the phone and have your eyes open. Forcing someone's eyes to open isn't impossible but would be difficult.

> Forcing someone's eyes to open isn't impossible but would be difficult 1. Be at border. 2. CBP officer requests to unlock my phone. 3. He/She holds it up to my face to trigger the unlock. 4. I close my eyes to prevent the unlock. 5. The officer presses the end of his/her gun on my head and tells me to open my eyes within the next five seconds. 6. I comply to avoid having my brains splattered on the pavement. 7. ???…

I don't see how this is a change from other identifications methods (passcode, fingerprints). If someone is ready to use unlawful violence to get your phone, you have no real way of avoiding it.

Re: iPhone 8

#188

This is a pretty phone -- but I really wish they'd make a smaller phone around the size of the 5S with the option to change the resolution (e.g. LittleBrother in Cydia). My 5S is slowly dying -- but I can't find a good replacement (new or used) that can be jailbroken. For me its the perfect phone, but I'm an extremely light phone user (email, phone, imessage, Simon Tatham's Net and Galaxy puzzles). I guess I was hopi…

They still may, I hope. The SE was first released in March (2016), and it has been selling like hot-cakes... or very well, at a minimum. Having a iPhone on an alternative release schedule seems smart as well.

edit: to add the date of release.

Re: iPhone 8

#189
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I guess this can't be repeated enough: press the side button 5 times and it'll require a passcode. You can do this as you're handing it to the officer.

All of this debate is pretty irrelevant since refusal to unlock a phone is reason for police to hold you indefinitely until you unlock it. It's a misconception that locking with a passcode means you've "defeated" the police somehow. Most officers probably won't deal with the hassle, but if the officer is in a particularly bad mood or if they have reason to suspect you actually do have something incriminating, the off…

Obviously the choice is going to be between complying or a holding cell. This allows you to make that choice instead of having it made for you. That's not irrelevant at all.

Re: iPhone 8

#190

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I thought the fingerprint scanner on the back would be a good feature until I realized 90% of my phone usage involves me pulling it out of my pocket. - On my iPhone, I just pinch it with my thumb on the home button while I pull it out. - On my Pixel, I have to take it out and then unlock it. Also, when the phone is resting on a table, I can just unlock my iPhone by touching the home button. With the Pixel, I have to…

That all depends on _where_ on the back of the phone. With my Nexus 6P, the fingerprint sensor is located right where my index finger naturally goes while holding the phone. With a correctly located rear fingerprint sensor, it becomes an automatic motion without thinking rather than having to consciously find and press a button.

Except for the 'no hands while locked on the table' part.

It's an oh so common use case.

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