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Re: iPhone 8

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Post by dalanmiller »

DanHulton wrote: post #12
Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

If you watched the demo, they explained you have to be looking at the phone and have your eyes open. Forcing someone's eyes to open isn't impossible but would be difficult.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by brunt »

>All battery claims depend on network configuration and many other factors; actual results will vary.

They may not be the only offenders but it bugs me that the tech specs don't tell you the battery capacity in mAH. Instead they give a relative number of hours and compare to previous phones. Those aren't tech specs, they're claims-- which they can say in fine print are unreliable.

Re: iPhone 8

#153

Post by dabockster »

wnevets wrote: post #145
xd1936 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't necessarily only because "the iPhone didn't have it". They chose to make the Nexus 6P and Pixel out of aluminum, and likely got rid of it because they valued that material choice over a glass or plastic back.

> and likely got rid of it because they valued that material choice over a glass or plastic back. once again, probably because apple did it.

Exactly this. I know someone who worked on the Android team around the time the 5x/6p was released. This person, though working for Android, still admired the iPhone greatly. I could see how this mindset transferred to the entire team.

Re: iPhone 8

#154

Post by madeofpalk »

rdudek wrote: post #7

They said water resistant, but can I drop it in pool and still use it?

Worth noting that this isn't new to iPhones, and it was introduced last year specifically in regards to protecting against falling into a pool.

Re: iPhone 8

#155

Post by dabockster »

dalanmiller wrote: post #151
DanHulton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

If you watched the demo, they explained you have to be looking at the phone and have your eyes open. Forcing someone's eyes to open isn't impossible but would be difficult.

> Forcing someone's eyes to open isn't impossible but would be difficult

1. Be at border.

2. CBP officer requests to unlock my phone.

3. He/She holds it up to my face to trigger the unlock.

4. I close my eyes to prevent the unlock.

5. The officer presses the end of his/her gun on my head and tells me to open my eyes within the next five seconds.

6. I comply to avoid having my brains splattered on the pavement.

7. ???

8. iPhone is unlocked.

Or, you know, anyone else who wants to unlock it (cybercriminals, pickpockets, etc) can simply threaten your life over a phone (since, let's be real, people have died for less in the first world).

Re: iPhone 8

#156

Post by cjsuk »

theshrike79 wrote: post #108
Androider wrote: post #51

Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) The best thing about the iPhone 8 is that it might finally make wireless chargers more commonplace, they are extremely convenient as Android users have been trying to tell for years. Here's another one trick Apple might want to pick up on: I own both an iPhone 7 and a Nexus 6P, and the fingerprint sensor being in the middle of the back o…

Wireless charging will only work if it's everywhere. This new iPhone (and all future models) will make sure it catches on. McDonalds and Starbucks _will_ have Qi charging tables by the end of next year.

All the new McDonalds in the UK have Qi charging tables.

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by laichzeit0 »

wlesieutre wrote: post #39
CydeWeys wrote: post #35

Who wants an all-glass phone? I get that the designers want this, but do actual users really want something so fragile? I've only ever had phones with plastic or metal backs, and I've never bemoaned the fact that they weren't breakable enough.

iPhone 4S was my first and favorite smartphone. Glass front/back with a metal edge. Back when phones were hand-sized they were a lot harder to drop.

Completely agree. It was the most beautiful of all iPhones. It was bound to get shit the next iteration. After all, gotta iterate right? Gotta do something different, "better"...

Re: iPhone 8

#158

Post by topbanana »

Osmium wrote: post #102
Androider wrote: post #51

Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) The best thing about the iPhone 8 is that it might finally make wireless chargers more commonplace, they are extremely convenient as Android users have been trying to tell for years. Here's another one trick Apple might want to pick up on: I own both an iPhone 7 and a Nexus 6P, and the fingerprint sensor being in the middle of the back o…

> Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) And I think we can all be grateful Apple decided to go with the Qi standard here rather than roll their own! What a mess that would have been...

Yes they are, but they have an extra protocol for their mat that supports multiple charges. They say they're trying to roll it back into Qi

Re: iPhone 8

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Post by bluthru »

DanHulton wrote: post #12
Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

I guess this can't be repeated enough: press the side button 5 times and it'll require a passcode. You can do this as you're handing it to the officer.

Re: iPhone 8

#160

Post by tw04 »

jonursenbach wrote: post #126
Osmium wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Neat, wireless charging, exactly like I had on my Nexus 5, around 5 years ago :) And I think we can all be grateful Apple decided to go with the Qi standard here rather than roll their own! What a mess that would have been...

Remains to be seen if this Airpower thing will be that.

Airpower is exactly that and they said it during the keynote. They promised to work to make some of it a part of the standard eventually. You know how that goes...
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