iPhone 8 • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 8

#41

Post by Brendinooo » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:31 PM UTC

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

>Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire

iPhone sales have been mostly fine, right? It's not like the removal of the headphone jack cratered sales or anything.

>Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7

Pretty sure non-Apple Bluetooth headsets work with the 7.

>Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me

Anyone here with an iPhone might not like being called clueless; might have led to a downvote or two.

Re: iPhone 8

#42

Post by crgt » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

Courage! In all seriousness, if you were expecting a reintroduction of the headphone jack, you might as well wait for them to reintroduce floppy disks. Apple only looks forward. That's just how they roll.

Re: iPhone 8

#43

Post by rayiner » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

> Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire

I upvoted you, but the idea of techies being "trend setters" is a ship that sailed long ago. People know I'm a tech geek, and up until 2010 or so, they'd ask me advice about what to buy. Today, nobody asks. My wife actually berates me every time I try a non-Apple product.

Re: iPhone 8

#44

Post by jonheller » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

Do you often use your phone without looking at it?

Re: iPhone 8

#45

Post by pilsetnieks » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

rdudek wrote: post #18

nsxwolf wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet they still don't cover water damage.

That's what I'm afraid of. I have the 6s Plus right now and when going swimming with kids and recording stuff, I'm always terrified of dropping the phone into the water. Yet, the apple watch can be submerged fine.

6S wasn't rated as water resistant, only 7 was.

Re: iPhone 8

#46

Post by jsjohnst » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

1) if you have Bluetooth headphones, they just work. Any brand.

2) if you prefer wired headphones, they just work too using the contents of the box your phone came in.

Seriously, you act like Apple released a smartphone without a screen. Grow up!

Re: iPhone 8

#47

Post by termiefoo » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC

CydeWeys wrote: post #35

Who wants an all-glass phone? I get that the designers want this, but do actual users really want something so fragile? I've only ever had phones with plastic or metal backs, and I've never bemoaned the fact that they weren't breakable enough.

From what I recall hearing from Apple peeps 6+ years ago, it causes people to fetishize the phone more as a fragile object they have to protect and personalize.

Re: iPhone 8

#48

Post by NathanCH » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:34 PM UTC

wlesieutre wrote: post #39

CydeWeys wrote: post #35

Who wants an all-glass phone? I get that the designers want this, but do actual users really want something so fragile? I've only ever had phones with plastic or metal backs, and I've never bemoaned the fact that they weren't breakable enough.

iPhone 4S was my first and favorite smartphone. Glass front/back with a metal edge. Back when phones were hand-sized they were a lot harder to drop.

iPhone 4/4S design was awesome.

It's funny how Apple is calling this an all-new glass design when other phones on the market have a similar design and Apple themselves had this design five years ago.

Re: iPhone 8

#49

Post by nnutter » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:34 PM UTC

emersonrsantos wrote: post #13

So many people already complaining of iPhone X black strip, how they overlook something so basic?

I was ok with it until they played a video clip and it played it with the (partial) black strip.

Re: iPhone 8

#50

Post by kayoone » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 7:34 PM UTC

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

of course they would not reintroduce the headphone jack, Apple does not do such a thing. They just accept that they did it too early and sit it out.