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Sedentary Behavior and Mortality in U.S. Middle-Aged and Older Adults

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Re: Sedentary Behavior and Mortality in U.S. Middle-Aged and Older Adults

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Post by icelancer »

hfourm wrote: post #6

Honestly, I feel like a study of this nature is backing up what we already know to a degree. But, we need to know more and I feel like a 4 year tracking period isn't enough. For example, how do we know that people who were already the most unhealthy coming into this study are also the most sedentary? How are they handling these types of things.

That's the danger of these types of studies. We all know what is healthy and what isn't, but the methodology here is suspect at best and the analysis shows weak conclusions. When headlines like the one posted here take root and people expose the truth for what it is, it damages the credibility of research and science in the minds of the masses, who are then more likely to ignore science in general.

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Post by kbenson »

Greenisus wrote: post #48

Here's one thing I've done to increase exercise in my life: I keep a jump rope in the trunk of my car, and I have a self-imposed rule that it costs 100 jumps to get into the car. I drive a few times per day, so that adds up to many small workouts!

If that wouldn't result in me embarrassing myself in the Target/Costco/supermarket/work parking lot multiple times per week, I would actually be really interested in that approach.

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Post by sliverstorm »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #49
sliverstorm wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gyms are actually pretty great once you "get it". I totally understand self consciousness around co-workers and friends, but I can completely guarantee you that at the gym, nobody cares. Everyone is in their own world. (Unless you're being a jerk, e.g. hogging equipment)

Holy crap, the number of people who do a set, then sit for five minutes playing with their phone before doing another set is just horrifying. They probably wonder why they aren't seeing a lot of benefit despite "working out" for an hour three times a week.

To be fair if you're working hard it can take 3-5 minutes for glycogen stores to rebuild for the next hard set.

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Post by hughes »

kbenson wrote: post #62
Greenisus wrote: post #48

Here's one thing I've done to increase exercise in my life: I keep a jump rope in the trunk of my car, and I have a self-imposed rule that it costs 100 jumps to get into the car. I drive a few times per day, so that adds up to many small workouts!

If that wouldn't result in me embarrassing myself in the Target/Costco/supermarket/work parking lot multiple times per week, I would actually be really interested in that approach.

Yeah that seems like a prohibitively high apparent social cost.

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Post by swframe2 »

I changed my primary work goal 2 years ago. Now I try to minimize stress as the most important goal of the work day. I redefined my job; it now is to solve problems in the lowest stressful way. In other words, my employer is not paying me to kill myself.

I walk 10 mins every 1 to 2 hours and use that time to review. I try to find ways to solve problems in ways that are more fun, easier, and effective. So to me a 10 min break is a work requirement. Solving a stressful problem and not reducing the stress first is wrong. It isn't just something I do for my health, it is the way people are supposed to work because it produces much better solutions.

After 50 mins working on something very difficult my mind gets so mucked up. Often I discover a simpler solution during the break and end up getting my work done much faster.

Sometimes stress can peak and when that happens I just take a nap until it dissipates. Usually just 30 mins but there are times when it can take an hour or more. Again, I view the nap as doing work because often I wake up with a simpler solution that also has much less stress. If I can't find one, then I escalate the issue. Again, it isn't my job to absorb stress to the point where it degrades my effectiveness.

Please note, I don't work on production system being used by 100s of millions of users. I've done it; it was fun; it is not possible to reduce stress in that work so it is not worth the effort. I now make 2x as much and have almost no stress.

Re: Sedentary Behavior and Mortality in U.S. Middle-Aged and Older Adults

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Post by xinyhn »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #49
sliverstorm wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gyms are actually pretty great once you "get it". I totally understand self consciousness around co-workers and friends, but I can completely guarantee you that at the gym, nobody cares. Everyone is in their own world. (Unless you're being a jerk, e.g. hogging equipment)

Holy crap, the number of people who do a set, then sit for five minutes playing with their phone before doing another set is just horrifying. They probably wonder why they aren't seeing a lot of benefit despite "working out" for an hour three times a week.

Especially in a shared environment where people may be waiting, excessive rest periods are inconsiderate. However, there is certainly some merit to longer rest periods between sets being beneficial.

https://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/05/not-resting-long-en...

Re: Sedentary Behavior and Mortality in U.S. Middle-Aged and Older Adults

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Post by puranjay »

Greenisus wrote: post #48

Here's one thing I've done to increase exercise in my life: I keep a jump rope in the trunk of my car, and I have a self-imposed rule that it costs 100 jumps to get into the car. I drive a few times per day, so that adds up to many small workouts!

That's awesome! I love how so many people in this thread have their little hacks and tricks to get workouts in.

Re: Sedentary Behavior and Mortality in U.S. Middle-Aged and Older Adults

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Post by CalRobert »

overcast wrote: post #2

This should be obvious, however people still refuse to get up, and just walk around every hour for a minute. I spend a silly amount of time behind a computer, but I'll do 10-20 pushups / jumping jacks, every hour or so. After hours, I'll bang out six miles on the hiking trails. Get up, go get a drink, do a lap around the office. Get a stand/sit desk. Do some simple exercises. Pushups can be done anywhere, and will al…

"still refuse to get up"

It's hard to be the first one to do this. I've been in some places where it would get you funny looks, some where it would get you marked as lazy (somewhat paradoxically), and some where it's encouraged.

I like to do a decent swim on my lunch breaks (1250 meters these days). It was a good sign when my boss asked about how to join the same gym instead of wondering what I was gone for 50 minutes.

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Post by overcast »

CalRobert wrote: post #68
overcast wrote: post #2

This should be obvious, however people still refuse to get up, and just walk around every hour for a minute. I spend a silly amount of time behind a computer, but I'll do 10-20 pushups / jumping jacks, every hour or so. After hours, I'll bang out six miles on the hiking trails. Get up, go get a drink, do a lap around the office. Get a stand/sit desk. Do some simple exercises. Pushups can be done anywhere, and will al…

"still refuse to get up" It's hard to be the first one to do this. I've been in some places where it would get you funny looks, some where it would get you marked as lazy (somewhat paradoxically), and some where it's encouraged. I like to do a decent swim on my lunch breaks (1250 meters these days). It was a good sign when my boss asked about how to join the same gym instead of wondering what I was gone for 50 minute…

People would give you funny looks for standing up to stretch? People need to stop caring what others think.

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Post by QAPereo »

CalRobert wrote: post #68
overcast wrote: post #2

This should be obvious, however people still refuse to get up, and just walk around every hour for a minute. I spend a silly amount of time behind a computer, but I'll do 10-20 pushups / jumping jacks, every hour or so. After hours, I'll bang out six miles on the hiking trails. Get up, go get a drink, do a lap around the office. Get a stand/sit desk. Do some simple exercises. Pushups can be done anywhere, and will al…

"still refuse to get up" It's hard to be the first one to do this. I've been in some places where it would get you funny looks, some where it would get you marked as lazy (somewhat paradoxically), and some where it's encouraged. I like to do a decent swim on my lunch breaks (1250 meters these days). It was a good sign when my boss asked about how to join the same gym instead of wondering what I was gone for 50 minute…

You're that way until that behavior gets you in some real pain, then you stop caring about the looks you might get.
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