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Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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Upvote for "The Selfish Gene". Should be mandatory for anyone interested in science and/or biology! A great eye opener about how evolution really works.

Definitely. And you shouldn't let the fact that it was written by Richard Dawkins scare you off if you have a negative opinion of him -- it has very little to do with his atheism.

Also the subject of atheism should itself not scare you off. It is quite a reasonable position to hold.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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Adultery and murder have happened in just about every human society in the history of time but nobody thinks we shouldn't bother trying to suppress those impulses.

Am I the only one not seeing the adultery/murder connection here?

If it is true, as is often claimed, that racism is universal and therefore fighting it is pointless or should not be done, then the same should be true of other universally-occurring antisocial behaviors.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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The same is true of spouses, and in fact, the healthiest couples (or at least those with the most children) seem to be third or fourth cousins:

"Third Cousins Have Greatest Number Of Offspring, Data From Iceland Shows"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080207140855.h...

Not exactly what you'd expect given how often we see "hybrid vigor" touted as a purported benefit of interracial marriage.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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The same is true of spouses, and in fact, the healthiest couples (or at least those with the most children) seem to be third or fourth cousins: "Third Cousins Have Greatest Number Of Offspring, Data From Iceland Shows" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080207140855.h... Not exactly what you'd expect given how often we see "hybrid vigor" touted as a purported benefit of interracial marriage.

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Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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The same is true of spouses, and in fact, the healthiest couples (or at least those with the most children) seem to be third or fourth cousins: "Third Cousins Have Greatest Number Of Offspring, Data From Iceland Shows" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080207140855.h... Not exactly what you'd expect given how often we see "hybrid vigor" touted as a purported benefit of interracial marriage.

Yeah, I think "hybrid vigor" is probably nonsense. However, interracial couples tend to be left-leaning, which also implies fewer children, so I don't think it makes sense to infer causality (or lack thereof) the way you are. Too many competing factors.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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I have anecdotally noticed this with tall people and short people, I will notice a group of friends who are all 6'2"+, or who are all <=5'7", both of which seem statistically unlikely. There are plenty of more diverse groups (in terms of height) but its hard to say whether they are work friends or something else where you have less overall choice.

A few possible explanations: * People who are statistical outliers tend to seek out similar outliers to form a support network. * People who are involved in activities in which their physical size is pertinent (e.g. dancers in the Rockettes) tend to befriend others in those activities. * If height affects success (whether or not that is warranted) and if friendships are stratified along success-based lines, then you…

simple explanation is that normies are quite diverse and group together, which then leads to non-normies to group by traits.

and then studies happen and less normies take part in them.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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This is interesting as I've typically made friends along lines of interest. I guess my next question would be are genetically similar people more likely to have similar interests. edit: corrected grammer

> I guess my next question would be are genetically people that have genetic similarities more likely to have similar interests. If that is the case, it would lead to the politically uncomfortable question of different genders or ethnic groups being more likely to have particular interests.

uncomfortable? maybe if you're a racist SJW cuck.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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> there's typically little meaningful distinction anyone would pick up on We don't know. At least I don't. But it would hugely surprise me if we are not constantly picking up on all sorts of subtle gene expressions. And this needs not in any way be a conscious process. Sophisticated ability to suss out degrees of relatedness would be a far too useful feature not to have been selected for again and again and again.

I have two thoughts there: 1. Surely very high intermarriage rates between different European ethnicities complicate that. 2. In that case, wouldn't the opposite behavior be expected? If the goal were to have as little genetic variation as possible humans would be better off reproducing asexually.

> Surely very high intermarriage rates between different European ethnicities complicate that

Very high intermarriage rates? Wherever did you pick up such an idea?

> In that case, wouldn't the opposite behavior be expected? If the goal were to have as little genetic variation as possible humans would be better off reproducing asexually

There is no 'goal'. And too little variation seems to be a universally bad idea. It is a simple, observablke fact that most of us stick to partners reminiscent of ourselves. We may argue about the reasons, but the thing itself is clear and obvious.

Re: Friends Are Genetically Similar (2014)

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It’s obvious that gender and genetics have an effect on interests. I doubt that anybody challenges that, and you can go talk about that without anyone raising an eyebrow. What is a problem is if you use that to justify discrimination. Just because members of a demographic are statistically different, it isn’t okay to treat individuals differently because they belong to a certain demographic. And that’s what people ar…

I don't mean to start a flame war here, but when you say: People don’t complain when you say: “A lot of the fastest marathon runners are from Kenia”. People will complain if you use that fact to justify an imbalance in your workforce: “Well, it’s obvious that we hire only people from Kenia since marathons show they are much faster!” This is precisely the point. If objectively they are better, why is it discrimination…

It's not even all Kenians. It's Kalenjin minority in Kenia. If you need to hire people with best endurance why not ask them to run a marathon as a test instead hiring only people from ethic group that on average is better than others.
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