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Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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What really pissed me off recently, is that after deleting my FB account, whenever I login with email/password to a web site where I previously connected my FB (Spotify, for example), it restores my FB account without asking me and tells about it to my FB friends. Why the hell does it even keep a list of friends if I deleted the whole thing?.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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I don't know of many countries outside the US where you had to pay for receiving texts or calls. Most everywhere the cost was always borne by the sender (except when roaming)

Even roaming, it is free to receive SMSes for my plan and most plans in Australia. If you need to receive an 2FA token, well, you need to receive an 2FA token.

Yes, I failed to mention the roaming exception was for calls only.

Since this summer, roaming charges are also banned altogether within the EU.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

Certainly on iOS, the Facebook app eats battery like nobody's business.

I simply use the mobile website which is pretty good - and if I need to take a peek at messenger, I request the desktop site, which is sufficiently inconvenient to prevent me from doing it too often - about once a week.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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> you’ve shared x days in a row and your friends are responding

A month ago, FB's first senior software engineer was saying on the Internet History Podcast that FB would never create useless features/tactics to bring users to the platform like the Snapchat streak. Listen here, 27:20 mark. http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/2017/08/facebooks-firs...

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Same. I initially only uninstalled messenger (which intolerably presented me with a popup asking me to enable notifications EVERY TIME I OPENED THE APP ), then got rid of the FB app. Now even on my laptop facebook.com is pointing at localhost in /etc/hosts, which makes me edit a root file to look at it. I'm much, much happier. If it works for you, cool, but if you're dissatisfied and considering abandoning it anyway,…

I am honestly wondering if there is an inside joke for tech companies attempting to make the worst possible messaging app. Facebook messenger is god awful ugly, same with snapchat. Google Hangouts is ok at best (I personally have not used Google's other dozen or so messaging apps they have)

Competition. It's just like advertising. The more your competitors advertise the more you feel you have to.

Notifications from people are fine, e.g. 'x messaged you'.

Notifications from machines are the problem, e.g. 'x just did y'.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Same. I initially only uninstalled messenger (which intolerably presented me with a popup asking me to enable notifications EVERY TIME I OPENED THE APP ), then got rid of the FB app. Now even on my laptop facebook.com is pointing at localhost in /etc/hosts, which makes me edit a root file to look at it. I'm much, much happier. If it works for you, cool, but if you're dissatisfied and considering abandoning it anyway,…

Actual question: what's the point of Messenger if you don't have notifications enabled?

It's equivalent to email, but more convenient if you only know the people through facebook. E.g. I admin a facebook group, so admins have a chat to discuss group-related things.

If I don't have notifications enabled it's because I don't want to be distracted. I check my phone often enough, I don't need to immediately stop what I'm doing to read a message.

Equally. When I send a message to someone, I don't want to distract them either. Of course there's no sophistication (e.g. busy mode, notify for messages flagged urgent only) because facebook wants people to drop whatever they're doing and use facebook instead.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

I deleted it during the run-up to last year's elections, and I've been happier. Also, my phone battery lasts literally forever. The thing with optimizing for engagement is that the numbers will tell you to do things that eventually burn out your users. The more thoughtful people leave first, and the community becomes dominated by addicts, and the news feed increasingly dominated by oversharers who spend several hours…

Good point about phone battery. This stuff is not 'free' for all sorts of reasons.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

I did the same + I disabled facebook.com in Block Site extension. If I need to contact someone I use https://www.messenger.com

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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To communicate with other people on my terms, when I want to communicate. It's the same reason there are only a few phone numbers that can actually make my phone ring (my wife, the school my children attend, and pager duty (:P)) My device exists for my convenience.

You can also make only some email messages cause notifications. Not sure if there's a better way for gmail, but the way I did it was to have a second gmail account, then create filters that send only important messages to that account. Then in the gmail app you can control notifications on a per-account level.

If I remember correctly how I did this years ago, I made filters to label important messages with correct label and chose different notification (sounds at least) for those labels in gmail app.
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