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Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Interesting in this context that they killed the groups app so as to bring people back into the main app. Makes me wonder if the real reason is that so many people got sick of "normal" Facebook when all they wanted is to use groups that engagement suffered and they needed to bring everybody back.

I don't think groups was that successful, was it?

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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I got rid of my phone ~2 years ago and I feel the same way about that decision

How often do you run into a situation where you're forced to enter a phone number? Do you enter a non-existent one or do you use your POTS number? Do you run into situations/signups where you need to verify a number, and if so what do you do for that? The idea is very attractive, but it seems like the rest of the world is stuck with the mindset that you have to have a phone number, email address, and even a physical…

Yeah, there's a few services that are hard to use due to requiring phone number verification. Ironically, twilio was one of them. I just don't use these services, but if I absolutely needed to, I could figure it out. I ended up using a lot of bitcoin and other cryptos recently.

When I sign up for something I usually use a fake number.

I think a decent compromise will be using another prepaid cheap phone, although building my own phone would be pretty cool too (lots of hobbyists doing that now)

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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I also deleted facebook app from my mobile 2 weeks ago. And I feel better. Although, sometimes I could not resist and open facebook in chrome but still it feels better. And i agree to the point that these days I get a lot of unnecessary notifications. It sucks!

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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I have no idea what I did, but I don't get any of that nonsense. I have all notifications turned off in the app, I've disabled all email except if someone explicitly mentions me by name in a discussion (I should probably switch off that one, too) and I've made an effort to hide all kinds of stupid apps and games and pages that are nothing but time wasters. I also only like and follow pages that I have a genuine inter…

Maybe they are collecting enough data about you that they don't feel the need to bother you. Are you signed in to Facebook in your primary browser? Do you have the mobile app running in the background?

Since I've signed out of Facebook on my PC and kill the mobile Facebook app while not using it, I tend to get multiple push notifications per day, most of them asking if I know some random person.

My girlfriend, who is on Facebook daily, has never seen any of these notifications.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Up until last year, I chalked up the "I deleted my Facebook" phenomenon to hipsterdom or some pathology where people think the can "cure" "addiction" by quitting whatever unhealthy behavior pattern they exhibit for a week or month and then coming back. Last month I deactivated my Facebook and have yet to turn it back on. In the months prior I started finding alternative sources of news: NYT, Pitchfork, HN, various su…

As an information security person and someone that cares deeply about preserving my privacy and the privacy of my fellow citizens I see Facebook / Google / Amazon as sort of existential threats. For them to exist we can't maintain our privacy to a high degree. And as long as they maintain a network effect, even if you do delete your Facebook account, they will maintain a shadow profile of you. You will always be a no…

It is being a luddite - in a good way! Don't knock the luddites, they had analogous concerns.

They didn't hate machines or novelty per se, they hated the specifics of how the machines were affecting their quality of life.

Same with facebook - networked communications might be OK (remains to be seen if you ask me), but the socio-technical-political blob that is facebook's implementation of same has side effects that lots of us find horrible.

Pedantry over.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

Indeed that's something Cal Newport has been always saying!

Social media is engineered to be addictive and hooking us while the BS reason that we give to be on social networking for is to gain popularity but popularity would follow us when we do Deep work! https://hackernoon.com/hackers-guide-to-internet-minimalism-...

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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I got rid of my phone ~2 years ago and I feel the same way about that decision

How do you handle a situation such as being at an event with friends, getting separated, and needing to find each other again? At concerts, I've found it hugely helpful to simple take a picture from where I'm standing, and sending it to my friends.

I haven't had to figure out anything like that in the last few years. I'm not very social - I hang out with friends a few times a month and usually just hack on stuff and drink a few beers.

I've got lots of radios though, and I use them sometimes if I'm doing a convoy or camping, etc.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Deleted Facebook in 2011 and I've never looked back. I've got a faceless account with no personal data whatsoever I use for social log-ins but that's it. It's popular to bash social networks but I think it's probably more effective to thoroughly educate users on the tactics used by social networks to keep users hooked.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

#279

Interesting in this context that they killed the groups app so as to bring people back into the main app. Makes me wonder if the real reason is that so many people got sick of "normal" Facebook when all they wanted is to use groups that engagement suffered and they needed to bring everybody back.

I use Messenger way more than Facebook now, so it's similar problem. I have bigger groups (family, etc.) where I know what I send will be seen and read and I don't care about main Facebook very much anymore.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

#280

Interesting in this context that they killed the groups app so as to bring people back into the main app. Makes me wonder if the real reason is that so many people got sick of "normal" Facebook when all they wanted is to use groups that engagement suffered and they needed to bring everybody back.

I don't think groups was that successful, was it?

No idea about the app, but the service itself is hugely popular. From what I can tell, there's a huge iceberg of hidden group activity that we don't see.
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