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Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by 482794793792894 »

sekou wrote: post #143
convery wrote: post #78

Ye, Facebook is Facebook, which is creepy. Some friends asked me to sign up for it because they wanted to use the messenger service for a groupchat. When I registered it immediately propagated my profile with information about my highschool (10 years ago) and suggested a lot of people I knew from back then as well as some devs I've collaborated with on Github. All this from a new email. So I went into the settings an…

From what I understand Facebook has "phantom" profiles for people who aren't on Facebook but who have friends who are.

"Shadow profiles" is the term that made it into the news: https://www.dailydot.com/news/facebook-shadow-profiles-priva...

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by odammit »

taylodl wrote: post #2

The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

1. Delete Facebook 2. Get banned from HN 3. Be super productive

I'm pretty much in an FB and HN dopamine loop all day.

-_-

Not sure if I'm ready to pull the trigger.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by hbosch »

gk1 wrote: post #10

They also ensure there's ALWAYS at least one notification when you sign in. Even if nothing of importance happened, they find _something_ to notify you about just so you can see the red notification count every time. I deactivated my account yesterday and look forward to a FB-free life.

Seems like LinkedIn does this for me. I guess the difference is Linkedin is upfront and proud of it's creepiness.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by dannyw »

renaudg wrote: post #159
mcherm wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are in luck! At one point in time, text messages were extremely expensive (several cents per message, depending on the plan you had). At that time, laws were passed (in many countries, I don't know where you are) that made it illegal to send unsolicited text messages. You should see if you can scare Facebook.

I don't know of many countries outside the US where you had to pay for receiving texts or calls. Most everywhere the cost was always borne by the sender (except when roaming)

Even roaming, it is free to receive SMSes for my plan and most plans in Australia.

If you need to receive an 2FA token, well, you need to receive an 2FA token.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by tlb »

taylodl wrote: post #2

The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

I deleted it during the run-up to last year's elections, and I've been happier. Also, my phone battery lasts literally forever.

The thing with optimizing for engagement is that the numbers will tell you to do things that eventually burn out your users. The more thoughtful people leave first, and the community becomes dominated by addicts, and the news feed increasingly dominated by oversharers who spend several hours a day facebooking. That infinite slurry of crappy content rots your brain faster than watching daytime TV.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by dannyw »

pritambaral wrote: post #171
Gaelan wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you deactivate on purpose? Unless you still use Messenger or are considering changing your mind, you should delete your account instead. Deactivation just flips a bit; deletion actually removes your data.

> deletion actually removes your data Keeping in mind that this is Facebook we are talking about, I doubt the data is actually removed.

GDPR means Facebook can face fines in the billions for not deleting data when you delete your account

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by tenpies »

tomc1985 wrote: post #13

I'm beginning to wonder if our ability to sympathize only serves to advance the agendas of those who want to make money on us. Facebook's pushiness is and should always be held as unacceptable, in all circumstances and for all people. "I sympathize that the company needs business users to keep it afloat" does not justify the kind of begging they've been up to lately. The author's (and all our) collective sympathy kee…

> I'm beginning to wonder if our ability to sympathize only serves to advance the agendas of those who want to make money on us.

Using your adversary's virtues against them is a strategy as old as humanity. With social media it's baked right into the name. Who doesn't want to be social? Who doesn't want to share? Is something wrong with you?

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by dgudkov »

It's far not the first time when Facebook is using cheap manipulative tricks. I remember when I only registered on Facebook for the first time, its contact suggestions were mostly females (I'm a guy) in a proportion way more than I actually have females on my contact list or in my social circles. Manipulation is deeply in Facebook's DNA.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Post by Paul-ish »

Lately Facebook has been pestering me to enable notifications in my browser nearly every time I visit. This is an anti-patern as I suspect once I accept notifications, it is hard to remove. Some services just fatigue their users into opting in.
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