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Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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And yet California insists on continuing to ban all kangaroo imports into the state.

Really? Why? Here in Australia the meat isn't very popular despite supply, gets used mostly in pet food (and the leather is used as well). I'm sure we'd happily export it to anyone interested, why would Cali ban it?

California bans all sorts of things. Foie gras, wood stoves, apples from some other states in the union, reference to a nationally recognizable sports team, allowing animals to have sex within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship[0], driving in a housecoat (but only if you're a woman)[citation needed], and the eating of any frog which dies in a frog race (really).

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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It's worth pointing out that this isn't some hypothetical. Kangaroo meat is available at most grocery stores and butchers, it's fairly cheap, and quite delicious. It's the red meat I buy most often.

It's also worth saying that kangaroo in Australia is a bit like deer in the US: city people think the animal is a bit magical, country people think it's a bit of a pest; some people hunt it for food; you can buy the meat in some butchers but it's not in the diet of most; and occasionally it's culled because of population explosion. The only real difference is that the deer is not a national symbol.

Not sure why you're being downvoted, because as a lifelong resident around deer, afaik everything you've said is reasonable, if not true.

I live in a rural'ish area with a decent deer population [1] . Most residents see them as endearing, while a minority see them as pests. Go a bit farther out into more rural (but not boonies) areas where people do more serious (but still personal scale) agriculture on their properties, and the ag-pest attitude becomes much more prevalent.

Ask any winemaker and they'll call deer a pest.

Fwiw I'm in the "magical" camp (being neighbors with a deer rescuer will do that to you!) but understand the ag perspective.

[1] There's a family of deer that walk by my property every evening, and this morning I inadvertently startled a buck that was chilling out in front of the house -- they're very timid animals, which I guess is a big difference vs Kangaroos?

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, minced is the way to go otherwise it tends to be really stiff, perhaps slow cooking could solve the stiffness problem but I've never tried. Roo burgers are the easiest solution and can be found at any Aussie supermarket or butcher.

Having never had the pleasure of trying kangaroo you make it sound like venison or bison here. VERY lean, so you must eat it rare to medium rare or you wind up over cooking the crap out of it and it winds up like tough shoe leather. Ugh. I hope one day to make it down there and try some kangaroo steak, or some braized slow cooked kangaroo. I bet it's very healthy red meat, unless its farm raised. What is the natural…

Id agree on the taste part. Never had bison, but still that same gamey taste, certainly stronger than venison.

As for cooking, no, terribly dangerous advice. Cook kangaroo well regardless of what butchers and cooking shows tell you.

Kangaroo has somewhere near 20x the bacterial levels of raw chicken. It's wild hunted meat that's been commercialised. Perfectly fine if you eat it soon after being killed, but no sold roo in Australia falls into that category.

https://www.foodsafety.com.au/news/food-safety-issues-affect...

There's plenty of ways to keep meat tender while cooking it well, pressure cooking does an amazing job.

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a bit game-y for me. What else do you put in the burgers?

Gamey'ness is usually bad meat. People say the same about Lamb. It tastes "gamey". That's because you are eating tough old lamb. I bet it's the same for kangaroo. If it's very lean I would add some fat to it. Pork fat :) I bet that would make a killer sausage.

Isn't "lamb" a young sheep? How can it be tough and old?

Sheep meat is mutton. Makes a lovely curry.

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Gamey'ness is usually bad meat. People say the same about Lamb. It tastes "gamey". That's because you are eating tough old lamb. I bet it's the same for kangaroo. If it's very lean I would add some fat to it. Pork fat :) I bet that would make a killer sausage.

Isn't "lamb" a young sheep? How can it be tough and old? Sheep meat is mutton. Makes a lovely curry.

Not the animal, the meat. The meat has been butchered and then left out too long. For some meats, aging in this way improves the taste or texture - Not so much for lamb.

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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It's worth pointing out that this isn't some hypothetical. Kangaroo meat is available at most grocery stores and butchers, it's fairly cheap, and quite delicious. It's the red meat I buy most often.

Fairly cheap... but still more expensive then non steak beef, pork or chicken.

I would eat a heap more of it, but its often ~ $16 a kilo when I can get chicken breast for $8

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Also population of chickens and possibly cows are outnumbering us a lot, that is not a reason to eat them.

That's a false equivalence, we control the number of cows and chickens almost to the animal. They aren't a free roaming pest

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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Kangaroo is one hell of a pest in Australia. It's a native, which made it illegal for the general populace to hunt in the early 2000's (this doesn't apply to Australian Aboriginals). Non-Aboriginals who want to hunt them have to go through tedious multi-day "ethics" courses on about how you should and shouldn't hunt them, and even after that your options are limited and the process is ridiculous. Unfortunately this h…

Grammatical aside -- historically, aboriginal is an adjective, aborigine is a noun -- so you could talk about Australian aborigines, or aboriginal Australians.

Agreed on pest status of kangaroos. They are hugely destructive animals, worse than goats especially as the larger kangaroos can clear almost any fence, plus can do you some serious physical harm if they feel threatened.

There's arguably 4-6 species that come under the heading kangaroo. Then you've got the wallabies (anything not big enough to be considered a kangaroo), and the wallaroos (anything not either of the above). Then a few other categories (tree wallabies, say). I feel the taxonomy is unnecessarily confusing.

IIRC, the biggest problem with roos and droughts are that they can stall development of their young, and then re-start it once the drought breaks -- so as a group they're very quick to bounce back in numbers.

I think your take on firearms and Australians' attitude towards same comes across as a bit loaded.

Firearm laws weren't exactly USA-style levels of free-n-easy pre-1996. The same people that would go out shooting kangaroos pre-1996 are the same people that are able to legally obtain guns with relative ease today. Most of the law reform was around semi-automatic, self-loading and pump action style weapons. So, not terribly high-impact in terms of kangaroo culling by farmers.

I feel that the 'dirty' attitude you're referring to is shared by almost every non-USA society (or at least, non-USA western society), especially amongst those that are informed regarding USA style gun laws and consequences of same.

I'm even more dubious about the correlation of political party's attitudes towards firearms and kangaroo culling. I don't know how trustworthy this source [1] is, but it suggests the four main political parties in 2016 were not against the idea of commercial kangaroo culling. Two fringe groups were against it, but all other parties noted there had 'no official policy'. I don't know of any political discourse that would be in jeopardy by either the current administration, or the primary opposition group, by advocating kangaroo culling.

[1] https://www.voiceless.org.au/election2016_positions

Re: Australians told to eat more kangaroo as population hits double that of humans

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It's still a bit game-y for me. What else do you put in the burgers?

Gamey'ness is usually bad meat. People say the same about Lamb. It tastes "gamey". That's because you are eating tough old lamb. I bet it's the same for kangaroo. If it's very lean I would add some fat to it. Pork fat :) I bet that would make a killer sausage.

we call kangaroo sausages kangabangers - havent heard of anyone mixing with pork though
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