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Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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I have never seen a company both so technically capable and supportive of user privacy as Apple. It stands completely apart from all of the tech giants of today.

That is very true, but I find it very sad that, as much as Apple is pro-privacy, it's very anti-freedom. I'd love to switch to a device as private as an iPhone, but at this point you're just renting the device from them.

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In the February 2017 case of a California artist who was questioned at San Francisco International Airport upon re-entry, after he finally agreed to unlock his iPhone, it was taken out of his sight for several minutes and could have been imaged without his knowledge. Under iOS 11, unless the artist, Aaron Gach, decided to actually give up the passcode (rather than type it in himself), he could at least have been reas…

It does. But if your a US citizen or are ok to be barred from entering the US for a long time, then you have the option to not unlock. If you go the US citizen route, be prepared to never get your phone back and many future border crossings to be 4+hr affairs where they confiscate most of your things. As a US citizen they have to let you in.

I've done this before. It was a 2 hour ordeal but they simply have no right, and I was let in to go home with all of my belongings.

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Rubber Hose Cryptanalysis? Can't wait for iOS to have the deniability factor of having different passwords unlock different things :) For the sensitive stuff, have periods of time that require several computers to solve cryptographic challenges in order to unlock the phone. Some of which may be your friends' devices. If they don't hear from you and your intended hosts in a certain amount of time, phone stays locked.…

So you are afraid of actors that would torture you to get access to the data. And your "solution" is to share this experience with your friends by tying their devices to yours and setting up a device in such a manner that that actor would not be able to verify if they indeed have access to the real data stored on it. This is a recipe for a one way ticket to a very dark place for you and your friends. For the most par…

> unless you are protecting the nuclear launch codes no data is worth being physically harmed for.

What if you’re just protecting the location of your daughter/sister from her physically abusive ex? Not worth enduring some violence for?

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> These changes are coming in conjunction with another privacy-minded feature that will disable Touch ID by pressing the power button five times. Wow, that's really nice. I wish Google was so forward thinking about things like this. I see no reason why a fingerprint authentication should be forced upon someone anymore than a password unlock would be. The only reason this is how it works today is because it's much "ea…

> I see no reason why a fingerprint authentication should be forced upon someone anymore than a password unlock would be. In Canada, there is a difference. A fingerprint is something you have. A password is something you know. Police can compel you to use your fingerprint to unlock the phone. They can't compel you to disclose the password.

You shouldn't be compelled to give up anything that is "you" without a court order and a warrant. Not indiscriminately photographed, fingerprinted, and in some cases tested for drugs against your will.

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I have never seen a company both so technically capable and supportive of user privacy as Apple. It stands completely apart from all of the tech giants of today.

All other tech giants today make money from advertisement and /or “big” data, which are inherently anti-privacy. This is why Microsoft has done 180° on privacy and has filled their first part apps with ads.

MS was always in bed with the feds, e.g. Skype and crypto backdoors.

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I have never seen a company both so technically capable and supportive of user privacy as Apple. It stands completely apart from all of the tech giants of today.

What about Open Whisper Systems?

I like Open Whipser Systems also but do they really qualify as a tech giant?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are afraid of actors that would torture you to get access to the data. And your "solution" is to share this experience with your friends by tying their devices to yours and setting up a device in such a manner that that actor would not be able to verify if they indeed have access to the real data stored on it. This is a recipe for a one way ticket to a very dark place for you and your friends. For the most par…

> unless you are protecting the nuclear launch codes no data is worth being physically harmed for. What if you’re just protecting the location of your daughter/sister from her physically abusive ex? Not worth enduring some violence for?

In that case they would come to break your face to begin with not your 256bit encryption.
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