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Re: Cruise's 3rd generation self-driving car

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/9/the-real-reason... Have a look at the graph of the cost of delivering utilities. This isn't about environmental sustainability as much as long-term economic sustainability. When towns sprawl, utilities with costs that scale with distance cost more per person.

When towns sprawl, utilities with costs that scale with distance cost more per person. When factored in with total cost of living are these cities cheaper or more expensive? I can think of plenty of dense efficient cities that are more expensive than cities with sprawl.

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Re: Cruise's 3rd generation self-driving car

#55

>Electric self-driving cars will save millions of lives and significantly accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy, but only when they’re deployed in large numbers. Just like cars that we drive, self driving cars enable sprawl. Sprawl will never be environmentally sustainable. We need cities that you move through by foot, bike, and public transit.

> Just like cars that we drive, self driving cars enable sprawl.

A self-driving car increases the radius of effect of things like mass transit stations. That can be a useful intermediate step before another transit stop gets built.

Re: Cruise's 3rd generation self-driving car

#57
Yeah, no.

Autonomous vehicles exist since quite a while now...

An Italian university tested an autonomous vehicle from Italy to China in 2010: the car was independent the 90% of the time, and semi-autonomous in case of lack of maps or other special conditions: https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics-softwa...

Re: Cruise's 3rd generation self-driving car

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/9/the-real-reason... Have a look at the graph of the cost of delivering utilities. This isn't about environmental sustainability as much as long-term economic sustainability. When towns sprawl, utilities with costs that scale with distance cost more per person.

When towns sprawl, utilities with costs that scale with distance cost more per person. When factored in with total cost of living are these cities cheaper or more expensive? I can think of plenty of dense efficient cities that are more expensive than cities with sprawl.

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