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Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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Well, testifying would put a big hitch in his political career I bet.

Good! Can we not have a near perfect crop of complete losers next time? No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary. Seems like a good way to lock in 4 more years of regret.

More than 60 million people wanted Hillary to be president. It was a larger number than the number that wanted our current President.

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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It's funny how $100k of pro-Trump facebook ads by a foreign entity is a crime against humanity. But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries [0] or the US getting involved in god knows how many other elections is like totally... meh. [0] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-...

Whataboutism doesn't change anything but derail the conversation, which I imagine is your intention. If I beat up a murderer, I still should be arrested for assault and battery.

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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Well, testifying would put a big hitch in his political career I bet.

Good! Can we not have a near perfect crop of complete losers next time? No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary. Seems like a good way to lock in 4 more years of regret.

>No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary.

Hillary won millions more votes than Trump.

Trump is at historic disapproval levels for a president at his time in office.

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Yeah, but what's the name of the epistemic fallacy you commit when you single out one instance of a common phenomenon and subject it to extra scrutiny?

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Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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post #6

It's funny how $100k of pro-Trump facebook ads by a foreign entity is a crime against humanity. But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries [0] or the US getting involved in god knows how many other elections is like totally... meh. [0] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-...

"Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Call it whatever you want, but you know you are only distracting from the point of comments like these. That point is that you need to be consistent. If you have a problem with some behavior on the other side, then you also need to have a problem when the same behavior happens on your side. If you are ok with one, you must be ok with the other. If you have a problem with one, then you must have a problem with the other. If you want to crucify people on the other side for some behavior, then you must also be okay when that same crucification happens to members of your side. If you write off some behavior when it happens on your side, you must also be willing to write it off when it occurs on the other side.

(Sorry to essentially say the same thing multiple times over, but hypocrisy is so engrained in our dna you need to forcefully call attention to it sometimes.)

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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It's funny how $100k of pro-Trump facebook ads by a foreign entity is a crime against humanity. But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries [0] or the US getting involved in god knows how many other elections is like totally... meh. [0] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-...

> But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries The source you quoted shows nothing about 'Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries'. In fact it exonerates him of your charges. The most recent US interference in a foreign election (quoted in your source) was in 2000, when Dubya was President. You could arguable attribute that to Bill Clinton, since the groundwork would ha…

Here are six examples of Obama outwardly interfering in foreign elections.

https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-s...

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

#28
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Yeah, but what's the name of the epistemic fallacy you commit when you single out one instance of a common phenomenon and subject it to extra scrutiny?

That fallacy is called 'journalism.'

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good! Can we not have a near perfect crop of complete losers next time? No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary. Seems like a good way to lock in 4 more years of regret.

/me raises hand that I'd rather have Mark than Hillary. It's not so much that I agree with everything he says or stands for and I most certainly appreciate but don't idolize him. I'd rather have nearly any tech-savvy outsider than at least half the major party primary candidates last year.

Are we able to call someone who has been heavily funded by three-letter agencies for the benefit of mass surveillance, an "outsider?"

Re: Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify

#30

It's funny how $100k of pro-Trump facebook ads by a foreign entity is a crime against humanity. But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries [0] or the US getting involved in god knows how many other elections is like totally... meh. [0] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-...

How do you know those were pro-Trump ads? I am just curious about the sources.

Well I guess I don't... they could be just plain anti-Hillary/bernie/dems ads. But the point is that the ads supposedly helped Trump.
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