Virginia has decertified its most hackable voting machines

Post by jandrese » Mon, Sep 11, 2017, 5:36 PM UTC

Klathmon wrote: post #70

jandrese wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it counts instantly. Verifying the paper record takes time/money/manpower.

But you still need to validate the paper side, so that benefit is removed unless you trust it alone. And requiring a large amount of manpower is a benefit of paper voting, not a problem. In the grand scheme of things it's a miniscule amount of work, and it ensures freedoms and laws for generations to come. This isn't an area where efficiency matters. The more manpower it takes, the harder it will be to "hack" it with…

You only verify a small subset of the paper ballots. You randomly sample to verify the electronic records.

Post by cafard » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 12:53 PM UTC

School-Cotton wrote: post #5

Why the fuck do we need to vote on machines, anyway? I don't understand this. Many other countries use paper ballots, including highly developed ones (e.g., France, UK...)

Because it is part of the American mind to believe in technology. (Often a larger part, the less that one knows about the technology.)

One thing I will say is that the US often has a lot more offices on the ballot than some other counties. In Washington, DC, a ballot can include Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner (somebody representing an area of a maybe twenty blocks), city council member, school board member, mayor, non-voting delegate to congress, and depending on the year "shadow senator" and president. In other places one may have county commissioners, judges, sheriffs, etc. That does make for a lot of tabulation.

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