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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by tagurit »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
racl101 wrote: post #4

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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

UX on both platforms are pretty horrendous. But windows, especially the newer versions, is even worse imo. It's way too "in your face" and has extra nonsense that adds no purpose. Changing settings is unnecessarily complicated unless you have already done it in the past. Tiles in the start menu. Shortcuts are less efficient than macOS (switching tabs, closing apps, etc). And more. Ofc you can customize these, but I'd rather not. And it takes me a good amount of time to research if 3rd party apps are safe and secure especially on windows

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by jonknee »

blubb-fish wrote: post #300
Retric wrote: post #286

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Many people spend more time on their phone than their PC. So, 1,000$ is not an unreasonable price if it's noticeably better. It's like spending 200+$ on a pair of shoes, they don't need to be that much better fit to be worth it. I mean 1,000$ seems bad, but that can translate to under 30 cents an hour if you're spending 4 hours a day on your phone.

so you spend also excessive amount of money on water because you drink it several times a day? there is objectively no reason to spend more than 200 Euro on a smartphone - except for attempting to inflate one's ego.

It's not like your phone vanishes after a new model comes out. A year old iPhone can be sold for a shockingly high amount of money (in no small part because--unlike 200 Euro smartphones--they are provided software updates for years to come). You can buy a new iPhone every year while selling your previous one and stay cutting edge for not too much money.

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Post by dep_b »

erikb wrote: post #294
yladiz wrote: post #205

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A) I am an engineer, and at my previous company almost every engineer (9/10) had an iPhone. You should also know better than to insinuate that Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, or Eric Schmidt aren't engineers, considering the companies they've created. B) Citation needed. C) What are the two reasons, specifically? The biggest argument I hear about using Android is that it's customizable, but I would argue that 99% of peop…

Look. Think about a guy. He stands behind a horse. The horse kicks him in the face. For most people this would hurt. But he doesn't process that feedback. How do you explain to him that it's a bad idea to get close to that horse from its back side? If you can show me a strategy, maybe I can explain to you why iPhones are badly designed. it should be obvious by using it. Examples: a) you get a notification that you ha…

a) Then push notification itself has a JSON data structure, if you need to prefetch more than that (movies, e-books) a silent push will start a background process specifically designed to do just that.

b) Custom keyboards are a thing for at least three generations of iOS

c) It's entirely possible to open an application from a webpage

d) pure horse shit. In iOS you could prevent applications from reading your contacts from the get go. Until recently permissions were an all or nothing thing in Android. Trusting app developers to respect your or other app developers interests is like trusting a crack head with your credit card. Poor battery life was one of the direct results. It's really no mystery why Google is slowly moving to the iOS side of permissions and background processes.

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Post by basseq »

Two immediate thoughts:

This is going to be for the hitherto-unavailable third tier of new iPhone: we'll have iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. I expect this is referring to the X. Which may well only be offered in a 256GB configuration. A jet black iPhone 7 Plus in 256 GB is $969 today. So this might not be a huge increase for the X. I fully expect 8 and 8 Plus models to mirror current pricing.

And second, we've seen this "high price" reporting with other releases, notably the Apple Watch IIRC. Reputable outlets were floating high prices, and Apple announced "normal" pricing at the event. Other comments here have talked about anchoring: this may be more of the same Apple marketing FUD.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by dep_b »

problems wrote: post #416
idonotknowwhy wrote: post #328

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Apple have a lot to answer for, and there are a lot of flaws with iOS devices, but this isn't one of them. 5 years of updates for a smartphone is pretty good. From Android, I think only certain Sony phones even come close to that. By now, the battery cells will be damaged, the CPU/RAM too slow or limited, the flash memory wearing out. Time for a new phone :)

If you run custom ROMs on Android that situation is currently better than anything - you can still get updates for a Galaxy Nexus from 2011. Xiaomi is also currently providing official updates for 4+ years on some devices. The official situation should change too - with the release of Android 8 there is now a more defined layer separating the HAL from the rest of the OS, allowing updates to be pushed out universally.

Yeah I'll totally bet the farm on the hope that in five years shady_dude_1998 will upload a nice ROM for me on some kind of site that forces me to watch an add for 15 seconds first.

I'm not against the idea of customizing your phone with a custom ROM but let's not pretend that it's a genuine option for regular consumers.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by jsemrau »

mikeash wrote: post #511
grecy wrote: post #469

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> US has the cheapest iPhone It is interesting to note among Developed countries, the US has the cheapest everything . Cars, computers, building materials, clothes, TVs. You name it, it is cheapest in the USA. It is interesting to note this is because people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries. Companies can charge higher prices in other developed countries because peop…

Typical US sales tax of 0-6% versus typical European VAT of 20-25% certainly makes a big difference too.

The funny thing with taxes is that in the end, if you pay the government or a company it makes no difference. However, if you pay the government they invest it in public schools, streets, health-care. Companies benefit the shareholder.

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Post by mi100hael »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #307
disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #242

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As another whiskey lover, can you tell me what that bottle is?

Of course :-) It was a Bunnahabhain XXV, the greatest sherry cask dram I have ever had the pleasure of tasting. I am very close to rationalizing buying a bottle, but I know I can buy four $100 bottles of other whiskies that are 95% as good, and will give me a wider range of experiences, for that same price.

Or you could buy two bottles of the Bunnahabhain and two other $100 bottles instead of buying the new iPhone ;)

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Post by jonknee »

alacombe wrote: post #426
avenoir wrote: post #27

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We carry these things on our bodies damn near most of the day. We use them in our down time to read books and news. To communicate with others and consume information in a matter of seconds. To remind ourselves of things occurring throughout the day. To keep track of grocery lists, diets, fitness activities, sleep cycles and etc. It's basically the first fully functional extension of our body. So, absolutely... why t…

why not pay more ? 1) A CAN$100 phone gives you 75% of the experience, a CAN$250 gives your 95% of the experience 2) Android doesn't lock you to use a single app depot 3) Android doesn't require 2 or 3 login / password (iCloud + iTunes) 4) Android accounts work worldwide, it doesn't fail to log you in if you change countries (I had to re-create an AppleID when I moved to Canada because the US one no longer worked) 5)…

On the other hand, receiving timely security updates is nice. To me, saving a few bucks isn't worth using an unpatched phone.

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Post by [deleted] »

beager wrote: post #402
ghaff wrote: post #327

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Using credit cards in the US give a pretty high level of consumer protection (over and above usual consumer protection laws) although not as much as buying an explicit warranty.

I'm genuinely curious if credit card companies get involved with warranty-related actions, or really anything beyond the fitness and accurate representation at the time of purchase. As far as I can tell, thigs like AppleCare and EU VAT protections cover an almost entirely exclusive set of concerns, namely, the fitness of the product after initial purchase.

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by pawadu »

x0x0 wrote: post #243
la_oveja wrote: post #231

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If you break/lose your phone it's your problem, dude. My Androids are lasting ~4 years each.

With security patches?

Well, I just saw this on Android Police:

agujeronegro

Hey, Samsung released July security patch to Samsung Galaxy S4!!! We are talking about April 27 of 2013. That's 4 years and a half! https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s4/GT-I9505/NEE/d...

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