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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

chadcmulligan wrote: post #143
nikofeyn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

The macbook trackpad it is so wonderful. I'm watching something on youtube, I'll just flick it over to the apple tv by pressing airplay - it's magical. My backups go to a time capsule - install time a couple of minutes, it just works, it sits there in the cupboard and I never have to think about backups. When my phone rings and its across the room, I can answer on my Mac. I seldom (never?) have to worry about reinsta…

I'm a Mac user as well, but I can't say I like macOS. Just like every OS it accumulates brokenness and it has lots of quirks.

My reminder alerts are being triggered at arbitrary times. I followed every advice on the support forums. Nothing works. Now the recommendation is to reinstall macOS.

I have replaced the magic mouse with a wired Logitech mouse because bluetooth keeps draining the mouse battery too quickly. I wanted to buy a wired Apple keyboard for the same reason, but they no longer sell one without a number pad (which makes the keyboard far too wide)

After waking from sleep my Mac takes awfully long to become responsive. I just keep hitting those keys until they show up. Then I delete all the buffered keystrokes and start entering my password. Stupid, I know.

Don't get me started on Apple Mail...

Time capsule doesn't make much sense as a backup solution if its in the same physical place as the Mac itself. You're just one burglary or fire away from losing all your data. I use spideroak which works on any OS.

I like Swift, but Xcode is by far the worst IDE I have ever used. It keeps crashing. The much-vaunted "playgrounds" are a useless, annoying toy. It is slower than you think possible, always indexing something. It can't rename Swift functions and classes (This "advanced" feature is coming this month I think). It doesn't even have a built-in shortcut (or a mappable command) to delete the current line.

I haven't used Windows in many years and I have no idea if its any better. I guess I will try once my mac mini expires, because I'm certainly not going to hand over thousands to Apple for a MacBook or buy a "new" mini that has almost exactly the same specs as the one I bought 5 years ago.

What I like about macOS is that it rarely has driver issues (I did have one wi-fi issue a while ago though). That's what keeps me away from Linux.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by masklinn »

falsedan wrote: post #305
ksec wrote: post #248

If we take a look from a Global Perspective, US has the cheapest iPhone ( All prices excluding sales Tax ), and everywhere else had it more expensive. i.e The $1K Prices may be making a big waves in US, but elsewhere in the world they have been paying that much for an iPhone already. And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher th…

> For Example, HongKong used to have the cheapest iPhone around the world, it was priced the same as US and because there are no Sales tax, it was 10-15% cheaper. Could you explain this differently? If it had the same price as the US (converted to HKD), and no sales tax, it would be the same price as buying it in (say) Oregon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_Stat... > Since January 2017, 5 sta…

I took this as meaning that it was 10~15% cheaper than surrounding countries/territories due to no sales tax, hence being used to fuel black market all around SEA: a 5% margin on an iphone obtained in HK would still be cheaper for the final Japanese buyer than a "home-bought" iPhone (8% VAT).

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Post by jsjohnst »

mattmanser wrote: post #240
Kluny wrote: post #218

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I also know a guy who made his living for many years repairing and reselling iPhones, who simply buys the top of the line as soon as it comes out and resells the old one to pay for it, at as close to full price as he can get away with. Since he always gets the most specc'd out phone available, treats it very carefully, always inside an otterbox, and is a pretty decent salesman, he usually gets his price. He also clai…

I've had nexuses for the last 5 years and have been very happy and certainly not spent the sums you're alluding to. Unfortunately the nexus is now no more, it's the Pixel which just seems like a rip-off, if I'm going to spend that kind of money I'll go back to iPhones.

Glad I'm not alone in disgust for the Pixel and mourning the loss of the Nexus line.

Even the much touted camera on the Pixel sucks. Worse, GPS is frequently off by as much as a mile from your actual location but accuracy is claimed to be <50ft, when it claims 200-1000ft accuracy is when it's actually the correct location.

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Post by legomater »

jdietrich wrote: post #212
thingerr wrote: post #34

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I'd be with you, except for Android's planned obsolescence. The reliance on third-parties to provide at most ~2/3 year security update paired with a dated and forked version of the Linux kernel gives me pause.

That's all set to change in Android Oreo. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/05/here-comes...

Oreo will make it easier for maintainers to keep maintaining, but definitely won't guarantee they do so. Just because device drivers are now easier to keep up to date doesn't remove the huge monetary incentive to push users onto the next phone.

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Post by c0nducktr »

Simon_says wrote: post #268
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #119

Is the new iPhone really going to be $999? I wonder if Apple are seeding rumours like this to make a smaller price increase seem more reasonable.

Or they seed rumors to test the waters of what people will accept. Based on this thread, it looks like $999 is acceptable.

Most people on this site are well paid tech folks.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by criddell »

jayd16 wrote: post #14
ihateneckbeards wrote: post #5

Not excusing the price, but people these days spend multiple hours a day on their phones. Phones are as important as cars for example. How high prices can go ? Even higher imo People are ready to pay for expensive cars for a better experience and higher "social standing". Phones are not that different in this regard

As an Android dev, I see the total opposite sentiment. Most new phones are pretty damn good, even the mid range. I assume things will go the same way as the PC. Cheaper hardware for most, Apple still holding onto a niche in the market.

That's probably not a great outcome. Financially, Apple is doing well. Are there any PC makers with solid profitability? I think the phone market is even worse. Apple takes almost all the profit.

I mostly just don't get the loyalty people have to operating systems or particular manufacturers. When there is an application that I need and it's exclusive to some platform, then that decides what OS I need.

I also am not bothered by a $1000 phone and I'm surprised that it's a topic of contention here. Many of us spend more than that on coffee in a year and the phone is probably just as important. $3 / day is well within reach for most of us. My life isn't going to be any different if I choose the $1 / day phone.

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Post by lagadu »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
racl101 wrote: post #4

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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

Like another user mentioned: the trackpad. Particularly the software aspect of it.

I have a personal 2012 macbook air and a lenovo thinkpad whatever from work. If I have to use the trackpad on windows I'm miserable. It's just so bad, the OS itself isn't made with it in mind: things like dragging and click-holding don't work anywhere near as well as it does on the macbook, the multi finger gestures are a miserable experience; I spend most of my time frustrated that I don't have a mouse. Compare it to the macbook: I do have a magic mouse somewhere but I haven't used in years; it offers me no better experience than that amazing trackpad support does.

This isn't even related to trackpad hardware because the experience was equally bad when I ran windows on the macbook using bootcamp. The Windows trackpad experience is just years behind OSX.

edit: as a related sidenote, I'm planning on dumping the macbook next year becase it's aging (4gb ram doesn't cut anymore). I'm planning on replacing it with a MS Surface; I found that touchscreen+pen are a suitable replacement for the macbook trackpad when you're on the go for my type of usage.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by brightball »

StudentStuff wrote: post #82
yodsanklai wrote: post #72

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> Not excusing the price, but people these days spend multiple hours a day on their phones That's my reasoning when I buy a new computer. I can buy a MBP for $2000, use it for 3 years and sell it used for $1000. $30 a month is a bargain considering I use it between 5-10 hours a day. I may pay a mac a little more (20%?) than the competition but it's worth it considering it's subjectively better (and objectively differ…

Much of this logic is why I stopped buying new computers or phones. I'd rather use a $70 T440 that I've upgraded and know how to repair most everything on than haul a MBP that I'll need to get a pro to service, that also happens to have terrible ventilation. I mean, my last MBP literally cooked itself, comparatively this T440 has a giant grill that it rapidly removes heat through (though its 15w i5 doesn't make much)…

This is exactly the reason I switched to Linux laptops on cases that I can open up and easily switch out any parts of need be.
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