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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by gwatch »

wutwutwutwut wrote: post #287
ksec wrote: post #248

If we take a look from a Global Perspective, US has the cheapest iPhone ( All prices excluding sales Tax ), and everywhere else had it more expensive. i.e The $1K Prices may be making a big waves in US, but elsewhere in the world they have been paying that much for an iPhone already. And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher th…

Yep the base price for a Iphone 7 Plus in Sweden is 1100$. Not sure it makes sense comparing prices like this though. In Sweden the cost of an iphone does not compete with your ability to get access to health care or education for example.

I will take my cheaper iPhone and pay for my own health care. It costs me way less to pay for my own healthcare, rather than surrendering my private property (paying higher taxes) to the government. It is immoral to force me to pay for the healthcare of other freeloaders. In case you haven't noticed, in Sweden your welfare state is already crumbling. It is unsustainable over a long run, not to mention, immoral.

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Post by beager »

ghaff wrote: post #327
kalleboo wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Swedish price also includes 25% VAT, as well as the cost of consumer protection afforded by Swedish/EU laws (which in the US you have to pay extra to get through AppleCare - although AppleCare does go further)

Using credit cards in the US give a pretty high level of consumer protection (over and above usual consumer protection laws) although not as much as buying an explicit warranty.

I'm genuinely curious if credit card companies get involved with warranty-related actions, or really anything beyond the fitness and accurate representation at the time of purchase. As far as I can tell, thigs like AppleCare and EU VAT protections cover an almost entirely exclusive set of concerns, namely, the fitness of the product after initial purchase.

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Post by nradov »

gwatch wrote: post #401
wutwutwutwut wrote: post #287

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Yep the base price for a Iphone 7 Plus in Sweden is 1100$. Not sure it makes sense comparing prices like this though. In Sweden the cost of an iphone does not compete with your ability to get access to health care or education for example.

I will take my cheaper iPhone and pay for my own health care. It costs me way less to pay for my own healthcare, rather than surrendering my private property (paying higher taxes) to the government. It is immoral to force me to pay for the healthcare of other freeloaders. In case you haven't noticed, in Sweden your welfare state is already crumbling. It is unsustainable over a long run, not to mention, immoral.

Wait until you get cancer. Then see how affordable healthcare is.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

astura wrote: post #332
Retric wrote: post #286

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Many people spend more time on their phone than their PC. So, 1,000$ is not an unreasonable price if it's noticeably better. It's like spending 200+$ on a pair of shoes, they don't need to be that much better fit to be worth it. I mean 1,000$ seems bad, but that can translate to under 30 cents an hour if you're spending 4 hours a day on your phone.

Except it's really easy to accidentally destroy or lose a phone. That's the reason I don't buy expensive phones anymore, because I'll probably just drop it.

> Except it's really easy to accidentally destroy or lose a phone.

In 20 years of owning different mobile phones, I've never accidentally destroyed or lost one. Maybe you are just clumsy or careless.

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Post by kalleboo »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
racl101 wrote: post #4

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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

I only rarely have to use Windows but every time I'm just so annoyed at how terrible the file browser (Explorer) is. Why the heck are folders sorted on top of files? It makes no sense and means you can't just jump to filenames with the keyboard. No QuickLook (this is a huge one. browsing through files is made 10x faster with QuickLook). No column browser.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by wutwutwutwut »

wil421 wrote: post #340
wutwutwutwut wrote: post #287

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Yep the base price for a Iphone 7 Plus in Sweden is 1100$. Not sure it makes sense comparing prices like this though. In Sweden the cost of an iphone does not compete with your ability to get access to health care or education for example.

Why are you bringing up healthcare on an iPhone discussion? Trying to figure out how it is relevant to the pricing of an iPhone in Sweden.

My point was that there are other factors than price which influences whether or not someone will buy something if you look at the entire world. I just gave two example of such factors. And I'm surprised this was not obvious.

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Post by whafro »

beager wrote: post #402
ghaff wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using credit cards in the US give a pretty high level of consumer protection (over and above usual consumer protection laws) although not as much as buying an explicit warranty.

I'm genuinely curious if credit card companies get involved with warranty-related actions, or really anything beyond the fitness and accurate representation at the time of purchase. As far as I can tell, thigs like AppleCare and EU VAT protections cover an almost entirely exclusive set of concerns, namely, the fitness of the product after initial purchase.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to compare directly to VAT, but many credit cards extend a product's existing warranty (90 days to two years, depending on the card), and some offer things like 90-day purchase protection (if the price changes or if merchant/manufacturer won't accept a return, the credit card will).

Purchase protection took care of a theft I had in my house last month. They just needed a receipt and a police report, and the purchase price was refunded a few days later.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by Vinnl »

problems wrote: post #380
Vinnl wrote: post #369

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How's the battery on those used phones? That feels like the main blocker for me.

New battery is about $10, not exactly a blocker, but they do increase the price.

Hmm OK, so I guess you just make sure you buy a phone with an easily replaceable battery then? Or is it that cheap when you have it done too?

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by Tepix »

bfred_it wrote: post #279
Tepix wrote: post #275

Another way to look at it: $1000 for two years. After two years, sell the phone for $300-$400. That's $25-$29 per month. Around $1 per day.

You can make that excuse for everything. I don't want to pay "Just $1 per day" on overpriced items. I'd rather pay $0.7 per day on a ok-priced item. I hope all of this hostility from Apple will result in lower marketshare and a slow fade into oblivion. I use Apple products because they're the best, but if I have to spend $1.4k for a phone and $3.5k for a computer I'll hope MS and GOOG have somewhat caught up to the q…

I wasn't making an excuse. I think $1 per day is quite a lot, especially when comparing it to a $200 phone. They are almost identical.
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