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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by falsedan »

blubb-fish wrote: post #300
Retric wrote: post #286

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Many people spend more time on their phone than their PC. So, 1,000$ is not an unreasonable price if it's noticeably better. It's like spending 200+$ on a pair of shoes, they don't need to be that much better fit to be worth it. I mean 1,000$ seems bad, but that can translate to under 30 cents an hour if you're spending 4 hours a day on your phone.

so you spend also excessive amount of money on water because you drink it several times a day? there is objectively no reason to spend more than 200 Euro on a smartphone - except for attempting to inflate one's ego.

> so you spend also excessive amount of money on water because you drink it several times a day?

I sure do, because I prefer the quality control and availability of municipally-supplied mains rather than sinking a well in my back yard.

Your point about conspicuous consumption is pretty unfocused. Should everyone use the same laptop, do the same job, be paid the same rate, lest be accused of propertarian tendencies?

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Post by naraniano »

majewsky wrote: post #257
naraniano wrote: post #188

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Windows since the Creators Update also does multiple displays and DPIs right. By the way, support for that is completely non-existant on Linux.

"that" as in multi-monitor support? Multi-monitor works fine on my Plasma desktop since at least 2012. Can't comment on high-DPI, but from what I've heard it's in the "getting there" stage.

Multi-monitor works fine. Single monitor, high DPI is very tricky, and barely works, never consistently (like, GNOME looks fine, but Firefox looks tiny). Multi-monitor, where every monitor has a different DPI value, has absolutely no support.

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Post by chadcmulligan »

Tsiklon wrote: post #216
chadcmulligan wrote: post #12

Does the actual price matter? I thought about buying one outright when I bought mine, but it worked out more expensive than buying one on a plan, I can't think of anyone who bought their's outright

Personally for me and my usage in the UK, a mobile phone plan is more expensive over the course of 2 years. Yes the initial outlay is more painful, but i find £25 a month much more palatable than £74 (for the same plan with the phone) back of the napkin maths says the following; iPhone 7+ 128G (my current phone) - £819 phone plan (unlimited data - 600mins - unlimited texts) - £25/month Over 2 years - 819+600 - £1419…

Yes I'm in australia and the maths has probably changed - plans are a lot cheaper now. Still I stand by my comment, a large percentage of iphone buyers don't look at the price, they look at the monthly rate - if the difference is $10 a month then it probably won't change things much imho.

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Post by themihai »

TekMol wrote: post #310
themihai wrote: post #306

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Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with…

Yes, I have a lot of gripes with Android too. But it's not as restricted as iOS. And no, I don't get any option to download an MP3 from Safari on my iPad.

Maybe you don't have apps that play mp3's? Technically it should be possible. See also this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0

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Post by rndgermandude »

steevdave wrote: post #170
dbcooper wrote: post #17

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Android security updates are the only reason to update my Nexus 5. A decent midrange phone, with an open bootloader, would probably do me for many years.

How are you still getting security updates for the Nexus 5? The last security update they released was from October 2016.

I use the Lineage ROM on my Nexus 5, and that does the trick for me.

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Post by glogla »

StudentStuff wrote: post #82
yodsanklai wrote: post #72

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> Not excusing the price, but people these days spend multiple hours a day on their phones That's my reasoning when I buy a new computer. I can buy a MBP for $2000, use it for 3 years and sell it used for $1000. $30 a month is a bargain considering I use it between 5-10 hours a day. I may pay a mac a little more (20%?) than the competition but it's worth it considering it's subjectively better (and objectively differ…

Much of this logic is why I stopped buying new computers or phones. I'd rather use a $70 T440 that I've upgraded and know how to repair most everything on than haul a MBP that I'll need to get a pro to service, that also happens to have terrible ventilation. I mean, my last MBP literally cooked itself, comparatively this T440 has a giant grill that it rapidly removes heat through (though its 15w i5 doesn't make much)…

I kind of wanted to do that, for the hipster geek cred, but after retina screens, actually usable touchpads and operating system that just works and also is unix at the same time ... I just can't go back.

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Post by kalleboo »

wutwutwutwut wrote: post #287
ksec wrote: post #248

If we take a look from a Global Perspective, US has the cheapest iPhone ( All prices excluding sales Tax ), and everywhere else had it more expensive. i.e The $1K Prices may be making a big waves in US, but elsewhere in the world they have been paying that much for an iPhone already. And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher th…

Yep the base price for a Iphone 7 Plus in Sweden is 1100$. Not sure it makes sense comparing prices like this though. In Sweden the cost of an iphone does not compete with your ability to get access to health care or education for example.

The Swedish price also includes 25% VAT, as well as the cost of consumer protection afforded by Swedish/EU laws (which in the US you have to pay extra to get through AppleCare - although AppleCare does go further)

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Post by chrisabrams »

chemmail wrote: post #261
dagw wrote: post #232

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The resale value of a 2 year old Android phone is much lower that a 2 year old iPhone, even it spent those two years sealed in its original box.

Yep, i sold an iPhone 6 plus 16gb for $550 yesterday. I couldn't believe it. It was just the asking price to start the haggle. Try get more than $50 for a 3 year old samsung.

Where did you sell it?

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Post by pas »

themihai wrote: post #306
TekMol wrote: post #290

I don't get what it is about the iPhone that people are willing to pay a premium for. Is it all just in the marketing? I would not mind paying $1000 for a phone if it offered any additional value over my $200 Android phone. But I cannot see anything better in the form factor of the iPhone line. And for the software - I have an iPad and I hate the software. It is so restricted. You cannot even do basic tasks like down…

Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with…

People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone.

And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm).

Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, the iPhone looks better, the Huawei thing feels bulky in comparison. Does that feel worth 500 USD? That's up to the customers.

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Post by themihai »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #234
TeMPOraL wrote: post #58

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> It's a tad slow, but weren't talking about literally a few seconds of waiting, nothing truly inconvenient. A few seconds of waiting is not "truly inconvenient"? I suppose you're either a zen master, or not doing much with the phone (possibly because it's "a tad slow"). For me, the phone is something I use constantly during the day, in lots of brief bursts. Few seconds of lag may be the difference between me staying…

"A few seconds of waiting is not "truly inconvenient"? I suppose you're either a zen master, or not doing much with the phone (possibly because it's "a tad slow")." No, he just isn't possessed by the ridiculous "must go faster, must go faster" mindset that plagues most people today. A website takes more than a second to load? ARGH it must be down, now my day is ruined! Just relax, if a small delay is enough to make y…

I would rather use a feature phone than a "slow" smartphone. Responsiveness shouldn't really be a extra feature, at least not for the basic apps(contacts, notes etc).
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