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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by chemmail »

dagw wrote: post #232
test1235 wrote: post #226

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You could save even more money by getting a cheaper Android phone and treating it just as carefully. The problem you described has nothing to do with the brand.

The resale value of a 2 year old Android phone is much lower that a 2 year old iPhone, even it spent those two years sealed in its original box.

Yep, i sold an iPhone 6 plus 16gb for $550 yesterday. I couldn't believe it. It was just the asking price to start the haggle. Try get more than $50 for a 3 year old samsung.

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Post by raverbashing »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
racl101 wrote: post #4

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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

Windows has a lot of minor issues that really get in the way

Not to mention that since it's more popular every device manufacturer wants to "customize" your experience with some BS app, the amount of bad practices in app development is abundant (remember when Windows 2000/XP came out how long did it take developers to make their products run without being Administrator? And then with Vista?)

MS helps developers, shames them sometimes (IIRC Vista had a "Windows is not shutting down because of this app ) and sometimes "virtualizes" things so developers can still not clean up after themselves, but it gets old.

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Post by mlnj »

King-Aaron wrote: post #146
kid0m4n wrote: post #142

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No offence :P but we are paying > US$1000

No offence taken! That's pretty outrageous, do you know if they have a justification for that price in your country?

It's mostly due to custom duty on electronics and gadgets, which can be upwards of 25%

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Post by majewsky »

quuquuquu wrote: post #156
Gaelan wrote: post #128

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When was the last time that phone got a security patch?

I don't mean to sound utterly petty, but most security threats these days seem to be external to the device you are using. Yes it sucks when a windows xp machine catches a massive virus from a random website. But here I am with an iphone 5 that cost me $xxx, it gets updates that slow the phone down and break a lot of functionality, and my ssn isn't keylogged from my device, it's just leaked by someone else! Now lucki…

> most security threats these days seem to be external to the device you are using.

It depends. From the top of my head, the smartphone is the most common second factor, so an attacker that's on your smartphone may be able to log onto most services that have 2FA. Or alternatively, they can DoS your own attempts to log into these services by deleting SMS, or just sending the phone into a reboot loop. (Of course, "targeted DoS" is not in everyone's threat model. But still, I have more peace of mind using a dedicated TAN generator device instead of my phone.)

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Post by Yaggo »

arnvald wrote: post #134
Yetanfou wrote: post #30

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I see your 3 year young iPhone and raise my 6 year old Motorola Defy. I bought it new in 2011 for about 1/4 of what the then-current iPhone would have cost. It still works flawlessly, the battery is fine as well (~5 days of normal use on a single charge or ~7 hours of screen time). If the battery were to fail I could just replace it, no tools required. Oh, the thing is waterproof and 'shock-proof' (although the latte…

Does it still get updates though? In 2011 I bought a Motorola Droid 2 and I it's been one of the best phones I've used, but I don't think I've ever got any system update. It's been stuck on 2.1 forever.

The original iPhone which I bought 10 years ago is still in daily use (by a person who only needs voice & sms).

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Post by Tepix »

Yetanfou wrote: post #30
dannysu wrote: post #18

Nobody looks at a top of the line PC with the best graphics card(s) and say it's crossing a threshold. Everybody understands it's for a certain demographic. According to rumors, they're still going to have various models and price points. Also, iPhones are extremely economical because no other phones receive OS updates for as long. My iPhone 6, which cost $749 at the time, is coming up to 3 years old. It's still flaw…

I see your 3 year young iPhone and raise my 6 year old Motorola Defy. I bought it new in 2011 for about 1/4 of what the then-current iPhone would have cost. It still works flawlessly, the battery is fine as well (~5 days of normal use on a single charge or ~7 hours of screen time). If the battery were to fail I could just replace it, no tools required. Oh, the thing is waterproof and 'shock-proof' (although the latte…

If you install a more recent version of Android (such as 4.4) on the Defy (it shipped with Android 2.3 or so), it will be too slow for use (for my taste,anyway). I tried it with a faster Defy+.

Even with Android 4.4 it will be a very insecure phone. With Android 2.3 it will be laughably insecure. Visit one wrong webpage and your phone is owned. No thanks.

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Post by mlnj »

scrollaway wrote: post #181
SentientNo4 wrote: post #161

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But you throw your phone at the wall once a week? I think your problem requires a different solution.

How often do you remove your pants every week? Or pull your phone out of a loose pocket?

I've never had this problem. Perhaps I am more careful with my phone in general.

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Post by Simon_says »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #119

Is the new iPhone really going to be $999? I wonder if Apple are seeding rumours like this to make a smaller price increase seem more reasonable.

Or they seed rumors to test the waters of what people will accept. Based on this thread, it looks like $999 is acceptable.

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Post by la_oveja »

x0x0 wrote: post #243
la_oveja wrote: post #231

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If you break/lose your phone it's your problem, dude. My Androids are lasting ~4 years each.

With security patches?

My OnePlus One has Android 7.1.2 and August security patch (thanks to Paranoid Android)
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