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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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jkaptur wrote: post #19
sho wrote: post #9

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> competition is such that you can get an excellent product [..] for $1,000 The really interesting part is that for ~$1000 you get the best product available at any price . That's the magic of economies of scale in consumer markets, especially technology. It's so incredibly expensive and largely fruitless to step out of the economy of scale, that practically speaking no-one does it. I don't have a yacht like Paul All…

Andy Warhol: "What’s great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drin…

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by vacri »

jkaptur wrote: post #19
sho wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> competition is such that you can get an excellent product [..] for $1,000 The really interesting part is that for ~$1000 you get the best product available at any price . That's the magic of economies of scale in consumer markets, especially technology. It's so incredibly expensive and largely fruitless to step out of the economy of scale, that practically speaking no-one does it. I don't have a yacht like Paul All…

Andy Warhol: "What’s great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drin…

This is different to soft drinks in other countries... how? Change the drink to whiskey, another popular one, and you can be sure that there's a difference between what the American rich and poor drink.

> no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drinking. All the Cokes are the same and all the Cokes are good

And coke is not the same everywhere either. My guess is that the prez isn't going to be drinking much watery post-mix coke with his meals.

Similarly, coke in glass bottles is nicer than post-mix coke, and it's more expensive. 'Regular' cokes are in-between. And, for the US with its HFCS coke, you can import the much better-tasting sucrose-coke, which is more expensive to obtain if you're importing it yourself (although a lot of places on the Mexican border already have it).

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by mandeepj »

jkaptur wrote: post #19
sho wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> competition is such that you can get an excellent product [..] for $1,000 The really interesting part is that for ~$1000 you get the best product available at any price . That's the magic of economies of scale in consumer markets, especially technology. It's so incredibly expensive and largely fruitless to step out of the economy of scale, that practically speaking no-one does it. I don't have a yacht like Paul All…

Andy Warhol: "What’s great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drin…

Coke is a bad example. Let's talk about a bottle of wine which is $20k. I certainly can't afford that along with a lot of other people.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by cm2187 »

ihateneckbeards wrote: post #16
jayd16 wrote: post #14

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As an Android dev, I see the total opposite sentiment. Most new phones are pretty damn good, even the mid range. I assume things will go the same way as the PC. Cheaper hardware for most, Apple still holding onto a niche in the market.

Mid range cars can also drive pretty much like top of the range cars, they share most features yet people like high end cars.

There is a noticeable difference in experience between a mercedes and a ford. I am not convinced there is a noticeable difference between an i5 and i7 unless you are doing something super demanding.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by ianai »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
racl101 wrote: post #4

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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

For one, Mac OS does multiple displays and DPIs right. The trackpad is also solid. Plus the unix stuff that's always been there and isn't some subsystem only available with certain versions of windows. Also, the boot up and sign in process sucks in Windows vs Mac. Once I'm given a mouse cursor post-signon I'm ready to go in Mac OS. With Windows, I've got to wait for the AV to load up and do it's "routine". Then there's the probability of Windows Updates working the first time.

And then there's the Windows telemetry stuff. Apple's actually talking about ways to incorporate identity anonymization (sp?) into its browser. They've stayed out of trying to reap side income off device usage in multiple ways.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by developer2 »

bitdeveloper wrote: post #33
noncoml wrote: post #29

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Good looking? iPhones stopped being good looking since they added the camera that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Even the slimmest of cases makes that invisible.

For a company (and its customers) that rave about the design and look of the phone itself, covering it all with a case seems like the exact opposite of what one would expect to be the norm.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by DigitalJack »

5_minutes wrote: post #2

Previously, if you bought a Plus, upgraded the storage you also hit the $1000 mark quite easily. Apple can't do much wrong: removed the audio jack did not hurt iPhone sales. The new mac book pro, ridiculously priced, a very 'particular' keyboard, was the fastest selling laptop ever. If you see the reactions on let's say, The Verge, on any post regarding new Apple products - it's insane. So I think Apple is still in a…

My wife has one of the new ones with the "particular" keyboard. I think it's okay (the keyboard), but it's pretty noisy.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by terminalcommand »

bthrn wrote: post #36
pravda wrote: post #21

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An iPhone is a Veblen good [1]. The purpose of buying an iPhone is to advertise your economic resources. Like a Gucci handbag or a Rolex watch. With a smaller markup. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

That the purpose of it is to advertise economic resources is not true. My wife has an iPhone because it's the most competent tool she can use to get the job done. Having used several Android phones prior to this, I don't blame her. Relatively speaking there are fewer security issues, compatibility quirks, and reliability issues with iPhones which makes them worth the price to her. After the 2 year mark our Android ph…

I'm still rocking an iPhone 5. I use it mainly for browsing, news apps and spotify. It has the latest OS, all new apps are usable (except games of course).

Recently the battery got swollen, I took it to an apple shop and got a replacement (a refurbished iPhone 5) for 100 dollars.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by TeMPOraL »

mandeepj wrote: post #43
jkaptur wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andy Warhol: "What’s great about this country is that America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drin…

Coke is a bad example. Let's talk about a bottle of wine which is $20k. I certainly can't afford that along with a lot of other people.

$20k wine is probably not going to taste any better than $20 wine, objectively speaking. It's just a luxury good for conspicuous spending.
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